Playstation 5: Thread 02

[Cassius_Smoke]

I prefer Sony's approach. MS is easier and better for the customer, but Sony will ensure that companies push SSDs in a new direction in the long term. PCs will benefit from it and developmers will have a standard to aim for in a few years.

[nonny]

I prefer Sony's approach. MS is easier and better for the customer, but Sony will ensure that companies push SSDs in a new direction in the long term. PCs will benefit from it and developmers will have a standard to aim for in a few years.

There's positives and negatives to both approaches. Sony benefits from being able to take standard PC parts which may become cheaper faster, but you've still got a fiddly install process for the average consumer and it's not a transportable external card ... It's more internal storage. You also risk consumers buying the wrong thing.

On MS side proprietary is generally bad price wise as they tend to hold value and not depreciate as fast because they're specialised.

Though, in saying that I think they're priced pretty fair right now going on current market pricing. Then of course they're literally plug and play and transportable between devices.

I think with both they're bloody expensive right now and all the new consoles are limited in space. So it's a tough sell all round.

[hudson]

MS have gonna the Vita way.

[Lebowski]

MS have gonna the Vita way.

which never works out for the consumer.

As for fiddly if you can plug in a HDMI cable you can stick a ssd in an expansion slot, I'm not sure how its fiddly, maybe if your a complete moron you might struggle

[gambit6613]

With SSD inside the PS5 being a custom part will it be possible to replicate the speed of the drive with a third party exspansion, given that the SSD is soldered into the console and is what the whole console is built around?

[nonny]

MS have gonna the Vita way.

They kinda did with the current gen as well. The solution has been an external one throughout, albeit previously you weren't restricted by the drive speed as you are now.

I can see why they've gone this way basically.

[Lebowski]

They kinda did with the current gen as well. The solution has been an external one throughout, albeit previously you weren't restricted by the drive speed as you are now.

I can see why they've gone this way basically.

mOney

[Team Andromeda]

MS have gonna the Vita way.

MS did the same with the 360 for it's HardDrive . I think people forget that and how a 20 gig Hard drive cost over £100 quid . Thankfully MS droped it a few years latter .

[nonny]

which never works out for the consumer.

As for fiddly if you can plug in a HDMI cable you can stick a ssd in an expansion slot, I'm not sure how its fiddly, maybe if your a complete moron you might struggle

I know lots of parents / people who wouldn't have a clue what an SSD is let alone be comfortable lifting the lid off a brand new PS5 and clipping one into an expansion bay.

Piece of piss for us lot of course, but it would send others into meltdown. It's not the same a as plugging in a HDMI cable as it's internal. Yes that sounds silly, but that's how some less technical people see it.

[nonny]

MS did the same with the 360 for it's HardDrive . I think people forget that and how a 20 gig Hard drive cost over £100 quid . Thankfully MS droped it a few years latter .

True but here I think £220 for a fast 1tb pcie4.0 based drive is not an extortionate price. What we will have to see is whether that price drops inline with market price for the pc part equivalent.

[Team Andromeda]

True but here I think £220 for a fast 1tb pcie4.0 based drive is not an extortionate price. What we will have to see is whether that price drops inline with market price for the pc part equivalent.

I don't for the tech inside . I'm sure it will come down in price and we also get bigger cards too

[Lebowski]

I know lots of parents / people who wouldn't have a clue what an SSD is let alone be comfortable lifting the lid off a brand new PS5 and clipping one into an expansion bay.

Piece of piss for us lot of course, but it would send others into meltdown. It's not the same a as plugging in a HDMI cable as it's internal. Yes that sounds silly, but that's how some less technical people see it.

I'd say to those people have you ever put battery's in a remote control car or a TV remote?

if their that stupid and scared of expandable storage they also probably wouldn't know that it was a thing they could do or need to do on there shinny new console.

[nonny]

I'd say to those people have you ever put battery's in a remote control car or a TV remote?

if their that stupid and scared of expandable storage they also probably wouldn't know that it was a thing they could do or need to do on there shinny new console.

True... And yet they live and walk among us.

[Cassius_Smoke]

With SSD inside the PS5 being a custom part will it be possible to replicate the speed of the drive with a third party exspansion, given that the SSD is soldered into the console and is what the whole console is built around?

It's a good question. The 3 SSDs are mounted to the MB no more than a centimetre away from the custom SSD controller. The proximity alone will increase speed. The expansion SSD has to send the data across the MB to the Controller, which might add a couple of nanoseconds. Unless they come with the a custom controller also on the SSD, but then you can't sell them to pc owners without some mods.

[fishbowlhead]

Were all going to have to wait for Sony's whitelist unfortunately, no way the stuff coming out now will meet the standards needed for PS5.