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    I would consider getting an Elite 3 but after two fumbled models I'd 100% give it a few months first

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      I did own a gen 1 elite controller and had zero issues with it for the 6 months I had it. Had to sell it as my daughter figured out how to take the magnetic sticks off and put them in her mouth...

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        Aren't the stick mechanism still the same ones from the normal controller? That's why they still have stick drift.

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          Yeah they use potentiometers like pretty much every other pad on the market, instead of much more durable Hall effect ones.

          TBH for £160 it's kind of a piss take honestly. Durability and no stick drift should be table stakes for a premium pad.

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            Originally posted by wakka View Post
            Yeah they use potentiometers like pretty much every other pad on the market, instead of much more durable Hall effect ones.

            TBH for £160 it's kind of a piss take honestly. Durability and no stick drift should be table stakes for a premium pad.
            That's exactly what I was thinking. If you are paying £160 you'd want the best damn components on the market. That's pretty **** of MS.

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              Specialist Boutique item. Sales in the few thousands maximum. Hall effect sensors. €144

              £160 with potentiometers is an utter piss take as others have said.

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                Yep, that says it all. The margin on those Elite pads must be astronomical.

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                  Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                  I would consider getting an Elite 3 but after two fumbled models I'd 100% give it a few months first
                  Yeah this is me after the Elite 1. The rubber basically peeled off in like 3 months, sticks actually lasted about 3 years but unfortunately both my bumpers (as I play bumper jumper) came off after about a year, still worked for a while but yeah after that I was soured on buying an elite pad.
                  Only reason I bought the first one was it was £129.99 with a free copy of Rise of the Tomb Raider, which had only just come out the day I bought the bundle and I needed to replace my pad.
                  My launch Series X pad died a few months ago with stick drift up and down, the worst type of drift.
                  MS certainly aren’t good at making durable controllers, that’s for sure.

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                    Gutted. I'm really happy with my Series X pad. My 360 pad went through 10 years of heavy play - Now I'm not expecting any controller with analogue parts to last ten years, but I'll be annoyed if I have to replace this one soon.

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                      Honestly I'd love to know what you guys do wity these controllers.

                      I've had 10+ Xbox One / Series controllers and have never had drift or sticking button issues with any of them. That said I'm not a heavy handed player so don't tend to wear them down at all... so maybe that's it.

                      Would love to see Series Elite controller have hall sensors though, agree the pricing on them is crazy but it was mainly for the hot swappable sticks/dpad, triggers and case. The issue Microsoft has these days is plenty of 3rd parties offer that stuff on Amazon now for peanuts and it's easy to mod your controller.

                      I really think they've got to go all out on any new revision. It'll probably be a £200 entry but if it had hall sensors, haptics etc... then maybe it's worth it.

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                        Cut the accessories and increase the build quality. They're so close to nailing it, really bad they made a second version without correcting such issues

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                          The Analogue sticks are definitely the weak point of both dualsense and Xbox controllers. They aren't stiff enough and don't offer enough fine movement. They were fine back in the 360 days, but they need refreshing.

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                            Pro pads feel like a real false economy, Ive owned a number of them both wired and wireless, and none of them are able to match build quality to price, putting a fancy shell and a few back paddles seems to make a standard controller cost £100 more (xbox elite), or if your scuff £160 more.

                            its not limited to xbox either for the ps4 I've had the Nacon controller and its triggers broke after about 6 months, i replaced it with an Astro C40 and that had regular stick drift issues that were fixable with the pc app but needed constant re-calibration.

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                              I love my Elite 2 but the bumper started to go and now only responds some of the time. The battery life is phenomenal though.

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                                After Sony raised its concerns about the MS/Activision merger and how COD was its own genre and unrivalled so had to be on PlayStation etc Microsoft has responded:




                                Basically that Sony see's Call of Duty on Game Pass as a major threat to Sony's dominance of traditional software sales model approaches.

                                MS also says that Sony's argument that COD's popularity makes it a market in of itself is unsound as the PlayStation brand of consoles is also massively successful and no-one has or is arguing that their consoles are a market separate from that of other consoles.

                                MS also cited other key franchises such as Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil and Assassin's Creed as being available on multiple machines showing COD is not a market decider in of itself. They also said that COD cannot be considered instrumental in the popularity of a service such as Game Pass because by Sony's own comments the service is already a success and no COD instalment has been released on it. They argue that Sony isn't actually worried about anti-competition factors but are simply panicked that they might lose their dominance.

                                As expected MS also cited their prior commitment that Call of Duty will remain on PlayStation and other formats with no content withheld for Xbox. MS also stated that the existing PlayStation Plus subscription service contradicts their argument and Sony is not in a position of weakness having sold more than twice as many PS4's as MS sold Xbox Ones (giving us as close to a confirmation of that rough 50m sell through figure as we'll ever get from MS)

                                They also confirm that Sony has been paying developers to withhold content from Game Pass and other rival services.

                                Finally MS says that the only way the merger works out as profitable is if Activision made games remain multiformat so restricting content makes no sense to MS.

                                All of this though circles and seems to defend the unconfirmed scenario that is pretty big regardless - Call of Duty releasing via Game Pass

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