Nintendo Switch: Thread 10

[Neon Ignition]

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Switch is now protected for the many years ahead of it's life!

[Neon Ignition]

Citra has also been taken down

[MartyG]

Switch is now protected for the many years ahead of it's life!

Wut?

No it isn't - there are now going to be thousands of Yuzu clones put up on Github from everyone that's downloaded the repository before it was taken down.

Like this one: https://git.nadeko.net/NINTEN****

[importaku]

Nintendo will just end up going after all of them as they discover a new one. They fact they went in this hard suing it's because it's going to affect the new switch due to backwards compatability as it leaves a huge way in. I can't see them letting variants of the emulator stay up on the net. To be honest they need to pull their fingers out and find some decent way of encrypting the software, the fact that the switch was busted open to hacking with a paper clip was laughable.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Unless I'm mistaken, it was only the original 2017 model that had the hardware exploit that Nintendo couldn't patch.

The 2019 "RedBox" model and the SWOLED can't be hacked the same way.

[nonny]

Wut?

No it isn't - there are now going to be thousands of Yuzu clones put up on Github from everyone that's downloaded the repository before it was taken down.

Like this one: https://git.nadeko.net/NINTEN****

Exactly. This doesn't stamp out piracy it just removes the top option and creates several more.

Nintendo just got annoyed ToTK leaked and was fully playable before official release, which when you think about it says more about their own security.

The fact they didn't take down Ryunjinx (yet) and there are only really two main players in the Switch emulation space tells you everything.

This was more a warning shot. I guess there is a larger debate around the ethics of game preservation and emulating systems which are still available at retail... I dare say in 1-2 more years Nintendo won't care at all about switch emulation.

[MartyG]

Nintendo will just end up going after all of them as they discover a new one.

Which is a battle they will never win.

Edit: there are already over 4000 forks.

[wakka]

Reading into this, they absolutely screwed themselves. They gated the latest builds behind Patreon membership, and then when ToTK leaked they used leaked copies to update the latest version for compatibility. They then promoted that the paid Patreon version would allow you to play ToTK early.

No wonder Nintendo took them down.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Reading into this, they absolutely screwed themselves. They gated the latest builds behind Patreon membership, and then when ToTK leaked they used leaked copies to update the latest version for compatibility. They then promoted that the paid Patreon version would allow you to play ToTK early.

No wonder Nintendo took them down.

I agree. Hard to have sympathy when they were doing all of the above to openly make money off of it.

Citra being taken down sucks, though. 3DS is a dead platform now so why gatekeep like this?

[wakka]

Same developers as Yuzu. Guessing it would have been part of the settlement that they cease doing anything in terms of developing emulators for Nintendo hardware.

[Asura]

Citra being taken down sucks, though. 3DS is a dead platform now so why gatekeep like this?

Presumably because Nintendo don't want you to be able to buy and "have" Nintendo games. Otherwise they would've brought the Virtual Console and purchases over to the Switch.

I'm very hesitant on buying digital content on the Switch; I bought a few things on the VC which are now effectively lost. I only buy digital Switch games when it's an absolute steal.

[MartyG]

Nintendo knows Nintendo fans will buy multiple copies of the same game over and over on different platforms though, so why would they ever do anything differently?

No wonder Nintendo took them down.

Think it's more over embarrassment that their games ran better on Yuzu

[Nu-Eclipse]

Presumably because Nintendo don't want you to be able to buy and "have" Nintendo games. Otherwise they would've brought the Virtual Console and purchases over to the Switch.

I get that, but in some fairness, the VC model wasn't really sustainable (precise custom-made emulation for every single game) and the sales numbers for VC games weren't actually that high to justify that type of work (didn't Sega originally baulk at the idea of continuing to support the VC until they relented with putting MD games on NSO?).

That said, you're absolutely right - purchases should be definitely transferrable between platforms at this point.

I'm very hesitant on buying digital content on the Switch; I bought a few things on the VC which are now effectively lost. I only buy digital Switch games when it's an absolute steal.

I'm the same. Unless it's for absolute bargain-bin prices or I have enough MyNintendo gold coins for discount, I'm pretty much physical titles only.

[Asura]

I'm the same. Unless it's for absolute bargain-bin prices or I have enough MyNintendo gold coins for discount, I'm pretty much physical titles only.

This makes me think...

There's surely a large number of mainstream consumers who have digitally bought the Zeldas and Mariokarts at £45 or whatever they are on the Switch store.

I wonder how that's gonna go down when Nintendo inevitably invalidate all of those purchases. It's difficult to say, in advance, as there's no real precedent.

[Nu-Eclipse]

I wonder how that's gonna go down when Nintendo inevitably invalidate all of those purchases. It's difficult to say, in advance, as there's no real precedent.

Who says they'll ever invalidate those purchases?

Have digital Wii, WiiU, DSi and 3DS software purchases been invalidated??