That’s totally fair. I just don’t think, personally, that you’re the market they’re going for. But that’s just my perspective.
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This is slightly off topic but speaking of buying a gaming PC...
It's something I've never actually done myself but I'm really considering this as my next move by the end of the year and that decision is being driven by my experience with the Steam Deck.
It's as close as I've seen any PC get to a console experience and the reality is I can play Xbox, PS and (cough) Nintendo games as well as various other emulated platforms.
I know this isn't new mind blowing stuff but I really feel with Xbox and PlayStation starting to change policy on releases we're at a point where buying a capable PC makes a lot of sense ... not least because the handheld market offers up almost the perfect companion device to take those same purchases on the road.
The more the direction of travel is for these console companies to support PC the less I see the importance of these Pro models basically... especially as they approach the same ballpark costs.
I should note I still don't like PC as much, but the experience of SteamOS really is changing my opinion now.Comment
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Build one yourself and get to know every component, teaches you a lot more than getting a pre build, though i would say there's always a decent deal on a pre build that you can then modify a bit, but you don't get that same experience putting every component in.Comment
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Same Ball Park cost???? you're not going to get a pc for £650, you're looking at double that to get a decent starter set up. sheesh, this pace sometimes.
id hate to see you in job negotiations, you go in looking for £3000 a month and then come out with £1500 which is the same "ballpark" under the above logic.
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mid level I5's and A 3060 series graphic card wow you're spoiling us,
you were throwing about 4070s yesterday, how is last gen graphics cards strengthening your argument.
Dis one is more like it
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To be fair, those graphics cards are likely at pace with the PS5 Pro.Comment
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I'm not really sure what your point is - you can buy a gaming PC pre-built easily for an under £600 budget. Go out and source your own parts along with money you'll save on the cost of games and no requirement for PS+ for online gaming and you'll be happy days.
It's easily in "ball park" - and again, the point was never PC = PS5.
It is a complete fantasy land if anyone thinks they're going to get £1200 PC performance in a £650 console, so I'll summarise again what the point was here.
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The leaked specs showed that there is a claimed 33TF performance (but this in itself doesn't tell the full picture), however, if you were to equate that with PC hardware equivalence, a RTX 4070 is kind of similar ...
The RTX 4070 is a £500+ card -> the PSPro if it has like-for-like is going to be an expensive console -> you're not going to get 4070 performance for 3060 money.
Once pricing levels on consoles start leaving traditional console space money, you start opening the door to other avenues where, if fidelity is your key requirement, a PC might become a worthwhile consideration.
Nowhere in this thread was it ever suggested you should only ever buy a PC instead of PS5 Pro, or that a PC is better than a PS5.Last edited by MartyG; 22-03-2024, 13:50.Comment
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It's a rabbit hole that once you disappear down it's hard to re-emerge from. I only originally got one because I had no kids and finally gave in to the idea of having something more flexible that would out perform the consoles. The first few weeks find you vanishing on treks across the internet as so many doors open up to suck up your time. Everything from re-exploring old games, mods, titles that had vanished but you can source again and that's without touching modern gaming or any other use. The ease of use is simple too and has only become more simple over time. Even if you eventually come to replace or upgrade a component, you feel a bit anxious opening up the system but it's never ended up being hard. Sorting the Deck out was more of a faff. I've started whittling my line up down. VR options are always an aside but for core systems and as the kids have the Switch to hand, I now have the PS5 as it still gets the occasional timed exclusive and the Deck for work but the PC does literally everything else now.Originally posted by nonny View Post
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Can I politely suggest you start a specific thread on advice on building a PC somewhere other than the PS5 thread as that's definitely off-topic now.
Maybe somewhere in get answers?
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Bah, but were talking about PC's vs PS5s it's like the old days of school yard console wars, I bet Marty had a super expensive Amiga 500 with a ram pack and Deluxe paint the posh git, when we all had was a Megadrives or a old NES, making fun of our blast processing when all we wanted to do was play Sonic the Hedgehog.Comment
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Building a PC for gaming is like buying a house, or a decent car.. When you want a new one you just sell the old stuff. My PC is from 2018, which was built with a 1080ti. Selling the 1080ti and upgrading to the 3080 cost me €80. As already said elsewhere the 3080 will last me ages. The only reason I’m upgrading to the eventual 5080 is because I don’t want to lose the equity on my existing hardware.
As for the PS5 ‘Pro’, I with they’d go proper pro and offer us a £1,250-£1,500 console. If they can sell a controller at £200 they should go the same route with their console. I basically don’t want to have to lug my PC downstairs for 4K/120 gaming anymore.
I spent more than that on an AV receiver not so long ago and that barely does anything.Comment
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Perhaps you were, the rest of us weren't.Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
I'm also not really clear why you think I'm a "posh git" - everything I know and have now has come from decades of hard graft, learning my trade and making good life decisions, it's all earnt and didn't come from anyone but myself - nothing has ever been handed to me on a plate.Last edited by MartyG; 22-03-2024, 15:48.Comment
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Apologies if I totally derailed the convo... It was focused less on the cost of getting started with a gaming PC and more about the experience of using SteamOS and how it's getting really close to a proper console experience whilst also remaining a completely open platform.Originally posted by QualityChimp View Post
Sure cost is always a factor but the point was the more Xbox and PlayStation support PC the better that deal gets.Comment
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Tons of stuff in the pc thread on building etc.Originally posted by nonny View Post
As for the comparison between pc vs console, really it’s more valid than ever with Sony dipping their toes in and certainly presents a conundrum if you have the cash to build/buy a half decent system, so the comparison discussion can really stay to be honest.Comment
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