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    Interesting, certainly worth considering... anyone know what connections both have got (aside from 2 Scarts)?
    Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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      Kotatsu Neko, a bit of advice before you get your TV: if you want to use your 360 over VGA you might have some problems. It doesn't accept 1280x720 over VGA (neither does the Sony, apparently). It DOES accept 1280x768 and 1360x768 though, but it moves the image to the left. I only realised it accepts these inputs today, so I'm still trying to find a solution. It does work, but you will lose about 4-5cm of picture unless there's a way to adjust the image. For some reason it won't let me adjust picture shift at these resolutions (there's options for all kinds of picture adjustments on the VGA input, but they're all disabled when you feed it a widescreen VGA signal )

      Originally posted by Lyris
      The apparent lack of per-input settings would annoy me as well (can anyone confirm that?). .
      Yeah that's true. HDMI/HDMI2/component/scart all share the same picture settings. I thought it would be a problem but it isn't. I set it up based on the component input and those settings are fine for every other input. It does have a different set of settings for VGA though ie you can adjust VGA settings without affecting other inputs

      As for the the Toshiba vs Sony, the answer is probably the Sony. It's a better TV but I don't think it's ?450+ better

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        Interesting, certainly worth considering... anyone know what connections both have got (aside from 2 Scarts)?
        • 50" LCD rear projection
        • 127 cm visible screen size
        • Approx. size (mm): W1184 x H827 x D408
        • Approx. weight: 32.5kg
        • New compact and stylish design
        • 3LCD technology ensures high resolution, natural colour and high contrast
        • High Definition resolution with 1280 x 720 pixels
        • Cinema Black Pro for superior contrast
        • Panel resolution: 1280 x 720
        • Integrated digital tuner
        • Industry's first invisible speaker mechanism
        • PC input
        • HDMI input for digital interface connectivity
        • HD-Ready
        • Virtual Dolby + BBE Sound
        • 3D Comb filter
        • Auto 16:9
        • SmartLink for easy recording
        • 2 x SCART
        Wanted the 42 inch for nearly a year for this price b4 the end of the year im getting the 50

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          Originally posted by RLench
          Kotatsu Neko, a bit of advice before you get your TV: if you want to use your 360 over VGA you might have some problems. It doesn't accept 1280x720 over VGA (neither does the Sony, apparently). It DOES accept 1280x768 and 1360x768 though, but it moves the image to the left. I only realised it accepts these inputs today, so I'm still trying to find a solution. It does work, but you will lose about 4-5cm of picture unless there's a way to adjust the image. For some reason it won't let me adjust picture shift at these resolutions (there's options for all kinds of picture adjustments on the VGA input, but they're all disabled when you feed it a widescreen VGA signal )
          Sounds petty odd. I could use component I guess but then I'd need a switcher box. Is it possible to set the 360 to output 1080i over VGA?

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            If you want a recommendation, then I use this switchbox. 3 inputs, and it goes up to 1080i. I've had it for two months and it works perfectly. As far as I can see, there is zero signal loss compared to a direct connection

            You can't use 1080i with VGA. VGA can only use a progressive scan signal. You can use 1280x1024 (the 360 supports this and your TV will accept it as an input) but it's just a 720p image upscaled. What you can do though is set the 360 to output a widescreen 1024x768 image (which will be 4:3 but look stretched), and then set your TV to Wide mode, which will stretch out this 4:3 image to a 16:9 one. It isn't a perfect fit, but it is probably your best option with VGA

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              Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko
              Sounds petty odd. I could use component I guess but then I'd need a switcher box. Is it possible to set the 360 to output 1080i over VGA?
              Nope

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                I use this Component switch:

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                  Sounds like component may be the best way to go. Set to what though - 720p or 1080i? Does the 360 actually output a 1920x1080i image, or is it just upscaled 720?

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                    Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko
                    Sounds like component may be the best way to go. Set to what though - 720p or 1080i? Does the 360 actually output a 1920x1080i image, or is it just upscaled 720?
                    The 360 natively outputs 1280x720. Wherever possible get the 360 to output it's native res, and let another (usually better scaler) like the one in your TV do the scaling.

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                      Originally posted by dvdmike
                      Wanted the 42 inch for nearly a year for this price b4 the end of the year im getting the 50
                      No component then? Ah well, guess I'll pass.
                      Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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                        Originally posted by themanwithapc
                        The 360 natively outputs 1280x720. Wherever possible get the 360 to output it's native res, and let another (usually better scaler) like the one in your TV do the scaling.
                        I don't understand how the 360 can be bad at scaling stuff. The GPU in there is absolutely state of the art, and a very, very expensive part. So unless the 360 is scaling it's output with a different chip... it really makes no sense if the output isn't high quality.

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                          Originally posted by Geezer
                          Shakey_Jake33, what's wrong with your LG? I have the same TV as you and as far as I can see it has pretty much everything you've listed
                          Nothing, it's just the Component on my screen is washed/bleached, and having to get LG to install a new firmware.
                          I'm just asking about alternative screens just to see what's avaliable.

                          Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko
                          I don't understand how the 360 can be bad at scaling stuff. The GPU in there is absolutely state of the art, and a very, very expensive part. So unless the 360 is scaling it's output with a different chip... it really makes no sense if the output isn't high quality.
                          I don't think the GPU is doing the scaling, I think it has a separate scaler.

                          Either way, the 360 scaler sucks big time. My screen is 1360x768, and when I get the 360 to rescale it, the image is so much softer than if I just have my screen do it.

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                            Can anyone see any downsides to this TV?

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                              Originally posted by charlesr
                              Can anyone see any downsides to this TV?
                              It's pretty low res - 1024x768... that's the kind of resolution you'd expect on a 15" CRT monitor for a PC. Plus it only seems to have one input - VGA.

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                                Such a low resolution for PC given the size... but this is a general problem with plasmas anyway isn't it? My main reason for sticking to LCD's is PC use.

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