LCD/Plasma/CRT/DLP - questions

[andrewfee]

It usually means that you've got the colour temperature on your TV set far too cool. It should look normal (or pretty close to it) if you use the "daylight" setting on your camera if you've got your TV set up right. If you can set a manual "white balance" on your camera, find something pure white on the TV, and set it to that, then your photos should look right. On the V-series I had, I found colour temperature set to warm with clear white on low looked best, I don't know how that is for the S though.

I took a quick snap of Gears on the WLT68 last night, but it didn't turn out all that well (just doesn't show off the richness of the image, and was blurred with handshake) I'll have to spend some more time to get better pictures of it.




I'd personally avoid any BRAVIA other than the S series, as WCG-CCFL looks terrible in my opinion, but if you prefer strong colours to natural ones, you might like it.

[Concept]

No, I've got it on warm. Like I said it's the camera and the fact that the curtains were drawn at the time the picture was taken. Both Daylight and Indoor settings tends to make the camera appear in the display.

Thanks for the suggestions though.

[Shozuki]

Andrew, can you help

im getting a new telly next month, I was certain on getting the X Bravia (for PS3 and 1080p) - but you dont sound that keen on them - in your opinion what should I go for?

[Shozuki]

Concept, do you have the W Bravia?

[Concept]

It's the S-Series (26S2030).

All I can say is that it looks very good. The worst flaw is the headphone output, but considering that I re-route all my audio through my PC it's of little relevance to me personally.

[Concept]

As an aside, out of all the televisions I've used (LG LXs/LCs/Samsung R5/R7s/Acer), the Bravia far and away handles standard definition content better. I'm actually looking forward to playing through some of my favourite current gen games in progressive scan and at 16:9 now.

[Oh_Mutants]

I'll be hooking up my U.S PS2 to my new tv via Component for the likes of Soul Calibur 3 and God Of War, this is probably a really stupid question but will other games actually display through this if they don't support Progressive scan? Will i have to still go through Scart for these, or will they display ok through component? And if so, will standard def games look better running through the component lead or through Scart?
Thanks

[Lyris]

I'll be hooking up my U.S PS2 to my new tv via Component for the likes of Soul Calibur 3 and God Of War, this is probably a really stupid question but will other games actually display through this if they don't support Progressive scan?

Yes they will. Some very, very old LCD TVs only accept Progressive signals through the Component inputs but anything 2004-onwards is bound to show Interlaced and Progressive happily.

[sj33]

As an aside, out of all the televisions I've used (LG LXc/LCs/Samsung R5/R7s/Acer), the Bravia far and away handles standard definition content better. I'm actually looking forward to playing through some of my favourite current gen games in progressive scan and at 16:9 now.

I've been playing .hack//GU in 480i on here all week and it looks mighty nice.

Tried the Saturn over RGB Scart and that looks great too (if you like the 'so sharp/clear it looks blocky' look... I do prefer that to nasty filtering/smoothing and looking all blurry like PC emulators can do).

[Lyris]

The Saturn (and older consoles too) is interestingly enough, a different issue because most games didn't run in "Hi-res mode". If you look at the likes of NiGHTS or Burning Rangers (except the title screens which are hi-res), although the Saturn is outputting a 480i or 576i video signal, both fields are actually the same because the resolution is only around 320x240. As such the Saturn is actually sending what could unofficially be described as 240p to your TV. The TV recognises that it's an interlaced signal but both fields are the same so the deinterlacer doesn't have a tough job.

If you want to see the difference, play a Sonic game on the Mega Drive on your LCD TV and you'll see that it's free of deinterlacing artefacts. Now play the same game on Sonic Mega Collection - because the GameCube is scaling the game up to 720x480 (or 640x480 - forget what it renders at) both fields aren't the same anymore and on most TVs you'll see combing when you make Sonic spin-dash.

Agree totally about the nasty filtering... I don't understand why people would want to play games like that!

[sj33]

Interesting you mention 240p, some of the newer Sega ages packs (Space Harrier Complete Collection I think?) has a separate 240p and 480i mode (as well as 480p). I assume the difference is the way they're internally rendered. The 240p mode looks much better.

[Lyris]

Ah, that's odd, I never knew that a company had officially used that term before.

[Shozuki]

Shakey you have the Sony S series right? and your happy with it arent you?

its 720 panel right?

[sj33]

Shakey you have the Sony S series right? and your happy with it arent you?

its 720 panel right?

I love it, well chuffed with it, wouldn't change it for any other 32" screen myself.

Most 720p screens are actually 1366x768 and I'm sure you know, and so's this.
Really brill image from my PS2 and 360 over Component, brill image fom my PC over VGA running at 1360x768, and Dreamcast over VGA too, Brill image from my Oppo over HDMI (well, DVI) and Saturn over RGB Scart too.

Can't fault it other than the fact that it only has 1 HDMI port (which I'm saving for the PS3).

[Shozuki]

nice, im sooo confused as to what to get i've saved up 2k for a new telly - but the more I read on them the more confused I get...