LCD/Plasma/CRT/DLP - questions

[sj33]

That is the screen me and Concept have (Concept has the 26" version though). We've raved enough about how brill it is.

[Concept]

Bangs head against the wall.

Response time is 8ms.

Read above and over the last page or so for impressions of the 26", which in terms of feature set is more or less the same as the 32" version.

Also, check prices online for the best deal at a price comparison site before you order from Sony directly. Here:

http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/product/Sony-KDL-32S2030-32-in-LCD-Television/37137226.html

Edit: Shakey beat me to it.

[yesteryeargames]

thanks guys, sorry its confusing they look the same model numberslol,

know of any review sites that have some actualy photos of the tv in use, i cant find any on av forums only text reviews.

what you think of this site and deal
PRICE INC VAT & DELIVERY ?761.99

http://www.cheapelectricals.co.uk/acatalog/Sony_32__LCD.html

thanks guys

[Gouk]

The question is - is that Sony 32-s2030 better than the newer Toshiba wlt68 @ ?899 which also highly regarded in this forum. I think the Toshiba makes more sense the Sonyv2000 would be more on par maybe slightly better but it only has 1 hdmi.

Anyway I'm looking for cost effective set & the Toshiba 32-wlt66 seems like its the best bang for the buck @ ?610.
Does anyone own this set on this forum? if yes could you please post some pics of some HD gaming & SD gaming - maybe some Gears, metroid or Twilight Princess.

Thanks in advance..

[Brim]

The question is - is that Sony 32-s2030 better than the newer Toshiba wlt68 @ ?899 which also highly regarded in this forum. I think the Toshiba makes more sense the Sonyv2000 would be more on par maybe slightly better but it only has 1 hdmi.

Anyway I'm looking for cost effective set & the Toshiba 32-wlt66 seems like its the best bang for the buck @ ?610.
Does anyone own this set on this forum? if yes could you please post some pics of some HD gaming & SD gaming - maybe some Gears, metroid or Twilight Princess.

Thanks in advance..

I had a 32WLT66 and now own a 40S2030. I wouldn't recommend the 32WLT66 because of its poor SD handling and bad black levels (It has a Black Stretch feature but this loses all detail in dark areas).

The S2030 is the best LCD I've seen in it's price bracket, although I've not seen a WL68 yet.

[melody]

Thank you Jake and Concept for your Bravia S2030 impressions. It was already my number one choice but your positive comments on here have motivated me that little bit extra to stop this umming and ahhing over LCDs and just buy the damn thing! One question though, which is correct?

2 Scart (one RGB wired).

Both ports are RGB capable

Or is that one of the less publicised differences between the 26" and the 32"?

[sj33]

Never tried the 26", but I can definately confirm both are RGB capable on the 32", tried it myself, and it says in the manual too.
Only one of the ports is Smartlink capable though (which you won't use unless you have a Sony DVD Recorder).

[krispyk]

There are but the jaggies when he's moving. Mostly it's around his arm plates (and the joins in the armour) and the weaponry on his back, even if he's moving at full speed (but not the roadie run obviously). They're slight but definitely there for me.

Cheers Concept, it's good to know that my set's not as bad as I thought it might have been

This might solve your problems. I am very tempted at the moment considering the price (and the exchange rate) at the moment.

Linky - http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4174

Not sure what the quality of the scaling is like but Gefen have a pretty good rep.

[Gouk]

I had a 32WLT66 and now own a 40S2030. I wouldn't recommend the 32WLT66 because of its poor SD handling and bad black levels (It has a Black Stretch feature but this loses all detail in dark areas).

The S2030 is the best LCD I've seen in it's price bracket, although I've not seen a WL68 yet.

Well after you posted this I'm no longer considering the wlt66 which for the price seemed great. I guess now I'm back to the more expensive wlt68 or your recommendation of the s2030 (only problem is the single hdmi). Quick ? - what is the ghosting like on the s2030?

thanks for your posts

[Spatial]

This might solve your problems. I am very tempted at the moment considering the price (and the exchange rate) at the moment.

Linky - http://www.gefen.com/kvm/product.jsp?prod_id=4174

Not sure what the quality of the scaling is like but Gefen have a pretty good rep.

Interesting, thanks for that - anyone here got any impressions of this?

[sj33]

Well after you posted this I'm no longer considering the wlt66 which for the price seemed great. I guess now I'm back to the more expensive wlt68 or your recommendation of the s2030 (only problem is the single hdmi). Quick ? - what is the ghosting like on the s2030?

thanks for your posts

I have seen no ghosting on thge S2030.

Really, they're both the best screens in the range, your going to get a stunning screen either way. The S2030 has probably the best VGA support on the market, whereas the WLT68 has 2x HDMI. Go which which you value more.
In my case, 1360x768 over VGA was a *requirement* so it was a no-brainer.

[Lyris]

Ghosting on the current Sony/Samsung facility screens (at least the ones used in the S and V series) is almost non existent but it is there. As usual, it's strong blacks and large areas of flat colour in fast 60fps games that'll show it up - same as always.

[PH]

Just a quick question, mainly for the 1080 owners, but anyone feel free to chip in.

I'm almost certainly going to order a Sony 40W2000 tomorrow. I demoed the TV yesterday and was blown away by the picture quality when it was fed a HD source. At the time, probably because i was so in awe of the HD picture i didn't really check out the TV when it was showing SD content.

Will there be any issues using a 1080 screen with SD stuff like standard Sky? I will probably be using HD/SD 50/50 so i really have to take into account how the TV handles SD. What sort of viewing distance would be needed for SD? I will probably be about 9-10 feet away from the screen.

[andrewfee]

Using Gears as an example, do those with newer sets like the Bravia and Toshiba get noticeable jaggies when playing?

There is some aliasing in 360 games on any set you play - it doesn't do a high enough level of anti-aliasing to completely eliminate them. Most sets, however, don't do as good a job scaling as they should though (particularly 480i/p) and if there's any kind of sharpness enhancement (very common these days) that will introduce a lot of aliasing. The Toshiba is great for both. There is a tiny bit of sharpness enhancement, but it's significantly less than any other set I've seen, and very hard to detect unless you're right up close to the set looking for it.

I'm also really impressed with how well it copes with composite even, the Wii is far from unplayable as some people have said.


(note: those vertical lines over the image are moir? caused by my camera not being focussed correectly)

[yesteryeargames]

can someone tell me what the diffrence is between the
KDL-32S2030 and the Sony KDL32S2010, how old is the KDL32S2010?thanks for your help home i can come to a decision tonight as i plan to order tomorrow.

i was thinking of getting the KDL-32S2030 from http://www.cheapelectricals.co.uk/ac...y_32__LCD.html ?760 del,
(good deal?)

anyone used them before?

also does the tv have progressive scan, as comet said no to both on the website

cheers