Do the games all run in 60hz?

[lostn]

Pretty self explanatory.

Are the games 60 fps, 60hz at 720p/1080p? Or did they introduce the PAL slowed down stuff again?

What about if you're running a US/JAP game on your PAL ps3?

[Yoshimax]

It's a hardware not software issue is it not ?

SD stuff runs at 50hz cos it has to

HD stuff runs at 60hz cos it has to

[Profit]

The games are downscaled from the HD resolution and refresh rate.

So the equivilent frame rate is the same, but refresh rate and resolution adjusted to PAL50.

[Jei]

Is the above only relevant for a PAL machine then??

Because i'm positive a USA PS3 won't be running SD stuff at 50hz!

I'd be interested to find out what HZ a PAL PS3 game runs in a USA machine

[sj33]

I think I read PAL games only work in HD on an NTSC machine and vice versa?

Because an NTSC machine will do 480 but not 576, and vice versa for a PAL machine.

So it's really only region free if your using HD.

[Hohum]

Christ. I've been a PC user mainly for a good while now, and I know various technical things when it comes to dealing with them, but all this talk about display settings for consoles/tvs nowadays really makes my brain hurt. Are the days where consoles were the simpler option gone? lol

[djtickle]

I have NTSC Ridge and play on a PAL machine but i have no way of knowin if its playing at 60hz or not >.> Its all smooth thou, no issues or anything maybe all games are PAL60?

Sombody with a 50hz TV would have to test.

[charlesr]

Are the days where consoles were the simpler option gone? lol

HD should have eradicted all the problems. Instead they messed it up and just introduced a bunch more. They should have said "1080p @ 60Hz or nothing" (or whatever).

[themanwithapc]

HD should have eradicted all the problems. Instead they messed it up and just introduced a bunch more. They should have said "1080p @ 60Hz or nothing" (or whatever).

HD in itself has no problems. It's a universal standard, and the refresh rates etc. don't matter.

The SD stuff is a knock on effect of the whole PAL system. Having said that, I think it's only specific to certain games. Most still run region free even on a SD set.

[Pirotic]

All the games I've tested run in 50hz when put on a standard PAL TV, no option screen for 60hz either.

This is what puzzles me, why couldn't they just downscale the 720p image to 480P? I can't imagine it'd take up much CPU time.

[Profit]

The games whatever region or whatever TV you are using, runs at the same speed, just different Hz or resolution.

[Spark]

Sony consoles always present a game in their original TV format which contradicts that of MS,Sega etc which always ran them in the TV format of the console which is why on a DC,xbox etc you can run NTSC games in colour through an rf lead.

[C']

Right, is anyone any clearer on exactly what can be played on what region console.

I switched off all my HD settings on my US PS3 console (480i only) and tried loading the EU download of Tekken 5: DR. Sure enough, I got the “This game is not supported” message. It works fine in 720p and 1080i.

I guess this means the US console is not able (or prevented?) from playing back 576i/576p content? Does this also mean that if I bought an EU PS3 game and tried to play it back in SD (for whatever reason) it would also not display?

Getting theoretical for a second, if someone developed a method of removing the region lock on backwards compatibility, does this mean that PAL 50hz only PS1 and PS2 games would not be supported either?

From the other end of the spectrum, is a EU console not able to playback 480i/480p content? Again, what about backwards compatibility for PS2 games. Doesn’t the 60hz options in PS2 software run in NTSC display mode instead of PAL-60 so would that be 480i/480p?

Signed,

Confused of Warrington

[Jei]

Well on the Backward Compatibility Site for PAL Machines it does say to avoid using the 60hz mode.

From what i've read up on it's pretty clear, If you run your console HD with any connector then none of it's a problem.

However the PAL Console and PAL Games DO NOT run in 60hz and DO NOT have an option to change if you're running Standard Definition

Most of the compliants have been about Ridge Racer 7 as apparently it's not optimised for 50hz and suffers from slowdown and a couple of graphical errors. I've also heard from a few people that Sonic has a problem on PAL Machines as well with audio, FMV hiccups and just random errors on a whole.

It's totally shocking to be honest and i'm glad I imported. I fully sympathise that it's a Hi-Def Console but the larger majority of Europe are still on SD sets

I was hoping to pick up a few PAL games but for the meantime i'm gonna play it safe. My HD Panel died a few months back and it's out of warrenty so it's back to my 6yr old SD TV for the foreseeable future.

[C']

Yeah I did read it says to avoid using 60hz modes but I thought someone may have given it a go to see what happens.

So I guess running in 720p, 1080i and 1080p is fine. It’s the 480i/480p/576i/576p modes that cause issues. Wonder if this is a hardware restriction or something that can be rectified via a firmware update?

Like yourself, I imported a console (US) and will simply purchase US/JPN version software to avoid any potential issues should I not have access to a HD set for any reason but this is really a poor state of affairs.