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    #16
    On this sort of subject: I've just been reading an article in PC Format magazine which makes it quite clear how comparatively lousily games run under Vista compared to XP/DX9. But worse than this general problem it says that existing 'future proof' DX10 capable graphics cards are effectively going to be made redundant due to Vista Service Pack 1 which will update it to version DX10.1. If you've spent ?500 on a 8800GTX Ultra I think that news might **** you off somewhat.

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      #17
      I only spent £300 and I can get 40+ in ETQW with AA on
      Oh and it still is not fixed yet it worked for a time!
      Come on Nvidia sort it out

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        #18
        i got a 8800gts and a brand new power supply.......i saw on the box that it said it needed two power connectors......i was annoyed as my power supply only had one....however thankfully that was for the gtx the gts only uses the one

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          #19
          Originally posted by fallenangle View Post
          On this sort of subject: I've just been reading an article in PC Format magazine which makes it quite clear how comparatively lousily games run under Vista compared to XP/DX9. But worse than this general problem it says that existing 'future proof' DX10 capable graphics cards are effectively going to be made redundant due to Vista Service Pack 1 which will update it to version DX10.1. If you've spent ?500 on a 8800GTX Ultra I think that news might **** you off somewhat.
          Sorry but thats bollox, total misinformation, heard this before. DX10.1 is a update and is backward compatible with every card same as every other DX update. Whoever wrote that needs sacking. Their is new cards due out next year (9800 etc..) and it will have say extra shaders on DX10.1 what the new cards can access. Every other card will still play these DX10.1 games fine just minus the shaders, same with DX10 games now you just use the DX9 shader. The game will need to be pogrammed of course to use the DX10.1 SKU so by the time that happens 2yrs will have passed and we will have all moved onto the next big cards. DX10.1 will not eat your children or stop you running games.

          As for Vista, well known when it was released with Geforce the drivers where rubbish (ATIs where fine) some games ran up to 50% slower like COD2 on Vista rest around 10%. Nividia have fixed it all now with MS and its been like that for 2months. Their is only a swap file bug for memory left what got fixed last month so yet again another bit of misinformation. I dual boot have done since Vista came out and it was utter dog food for ages so ran all my games on XP (and I have loads). I only ever used COH and Supreme Commander on Vista as SC was better with memory management so faster and COH had DX10 patch (the second one the first patch was so slow it was worthelss). Now since the later Nvidia drivers 2months ago I run all my games on Vista.

          For crashing with your card it can be a number of things. Always use drive cleaner to get rid of residue from drivers in safe mode first. Make sure you have the latest port drivers for your motherboard for the slot (ie nvidias force for nvidia chipset or intel inf updates etc..). After that download coolbits and disable fastwrites for the card in control panel as its always been a well know fault and if you have nvidia. Also disable nvidia gpu ex in bios as it interferes with the card and causes instability (lots of bios updates for EVGA etc.. disable it by default).

          If theirs owt else shout as been tweaking and building em for 15yrs

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            #20
            Tried all that but thanks, its a wide spread Issue if you look at Nvidia's forums almost everyone with a solo 8 series and vista is having the same fault

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              #21
              I've not had any problems with my 8600GTS on vista x64/x86

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                #22
                Your lucky by all accounts

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                  #23
                  Drivers for vista seem to be a bit of a mare, I'm getting regular BSOD since I switched to X86 which appears to be a driver issue.

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                    #24
                    It a related issue to the one we all have

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                      #25
                      Ive never had BSOD with Nvidia with Vista or probs with drivers (running EVGA 8800GTX 768mb), I always use drivecleaner have done for years.

                      Only BSOD Ive ever had was with Vista was on purchase was with antivirus (zone alarm) what I had to bin as they cant fix it. Before that Ive never had them even with 95-98-ME-XP as Im carefull how I set my PC up with IRQs etc.. BSOD can be caused by mountains of stuff, I know of 7 anti virus programs what cause it alone.

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                        #26
                        Im wanting to buy one of these cards maybe as early as tomorrow from my local cpu fair but i have a new pc rig and i need to know if my power supply unit will be able to handle it.

                        This is the card i want here....http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927

                        This is my current PSU its a COLORSIT 400 watt PSU =12v/20A...so will this be enough to power the 8800 card i want as well as my 2 hdds 1 burner ect or will i need a new one if thats the case can anyone recomend me one or two please.

                        Any help be most apreciated.

                        G.

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                          #27
                          The point of the PC Format article was not that Vista/DX10 doesn't work OK (with the right drivers and a top end card) it's that the update to DX10.1 will render existing cards obsolete simply because they not compatible. If this is wrong take it up with the magazine editors.

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                            #28
                            Does not normally last 2 seconds in games but just had it running HL2 ep 2 for 1 hour 40 mins b4 it died

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by glazza View Post
                              Im wanting to buy one of these cards maybe as early as tomorrow from my local cpu fair but i have a new pc rig and i need to know if my power supply unit will be able to handle it.

                              This is the card i want here....http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=56&subcat=927

                              This is my current PSU its a COLORSIT 400 watt PSU =12v/20A...so will this be enough to power the 8800 card i want as well as my 2 hdds 1 burner ect or will i need a new one if thats the case can anyone recomend me one or two please.

                              Any help be most apreciated.

                              G.

                              Anyone??

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by dvdmike View Post
                                Does not normally last 2 seconds in games but just had it running HL2 ep 2 for 1 hour 40 mins b4 it died
                                Mike what PSU have yo got?

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