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    #16
    Safari.
    And again IE if something doesn't work.*

    *Funny story, some developers think that the term standards compliance means "compliance with IE's quirks". Such developers should be taken out and given a good kicking until they see where they got that wrong.

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      #17
      Amen... I hate having to screw sites I do up so they show in Internet Explorer. It can't even show PNG images properly!!

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        #18
        Notice the dreaded Nutscrape was not mentioned... whoops

        I use IE even though I have the others in case I need a testbed for any sites I may make.

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          #19
          Mozilla Firefox.

          tabbed browsing just rocks hard.

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            #20
            And avoiding all those tracking cookies is convenient too.

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              #21
              Safari 1.2
              Now we can resume downloads

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                #22
                I think Firefox is poised to take Opera's mantle as the most standards complient, extensible, usable browser.

                I haven't used Opera enough to be a devotee, but I've always appreciated what it could do.

                Nowadays though Firefox includes everything I could ever want in a browser; its almost perfect.

                Win32 Opera is probably still a little faster though, but Firefox is close enough for me.

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                  #23
                  well I thought I'd try FireFox (Think russian) and it reminded me of what features of Opera I like (not sure if you can turn them on)

                  1. Status Bar : Full stats of what you are downloading, how longs it takes and how many

                  2. Built In Mail CLient : I run about 10 simultaneous POP and IMAP accounts and M2 takes care of all of them very nicely

                  3. Password Manager : Cookie and Wand management is tops

                  4. File Size : The whole thing is only 3 meg to download, and since I have a few tens of machins of look after a quick skip to ftp.opera.com and I am at home.

                  Thats all I've got for now, its all personal perference mind you.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by JibberX
                    1. Status Bar : Full stats of what you are downloading, how longs it takes and how many
                    ctrl+e, or the download bar extension.

                    Originally posted by JibberX
                    2. Built In Mail CLient : I run about 10 simultaneous POP and IMAP accounts and M2 takes care of all of them very nicely
                    Try Thunderbird, the 'sister' project to Firefox. Its a really nice mail client, and handles multiple mail accounts well. Nice mail format and security features too. There are a couple of grumbles depending on what you're doing, multiple identities (addresses) from a single mailbox doesn't yet have a config tool (xml editing ahoy) and each separate mail box has to have a set of local folders, even if you don't bother using them.

                    Originally posted by JibberX
                    3. Password Manager : Cookie and Wand management is tops
                    Its there, but the GUI isn't as polished.

                    Originally posted by JibberX
                    4. File Size : The whole thing is only 3 meg to download, and since I have a few tens of machins of look after a quick skip to ftp.opera.com and I am at home.
                    Firefox is about twice that. Doesn't really matter though, eh?

                    I think you should try persevering a little longer. Also check out the Tab Browsing Extension and the excellent Adblock add-ins.

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                      #25
                      As much as I love Safari I'd love to know what spec system they tested it's cold launch time on.

                      On Apple's site they say it cold launces in 3.3 seconds... if you add 2 more seconds to that it's a more realistic time on my ibook...

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                        #26
                        Opera!

                        1. It is the original multi window (tabbed browser).
                        2. You can disable all toolbars and navigate using mouse gestures.(ace)
                        3. It's small.
                        4. It's fast.
                        5. It allows you to easily disable/enable plugins (Flash etc)
                        6. Pretty standards compliant.
                        7. Can be switched into queer IE mode for badly written pages.
                        8. Tight cookie control.
                        9. Far more intelligent (and tweakable) cache than IE.
                        10. Integrated mail and usenet.
                        11. Highly configurable interface.
                        12. Pop up blocking.

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                          #27
                          Yash, Firefox can do all of that. Its isn't as fast or small, but it is more standards compliant. I'll shutup about Firefox now.

                          As you say though, Opera was the original tabbed browser.

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                            #28
                            Is Firefox Mozilla the same as Mozilla 1.6? I've used 1.6 here at work and it's ****.

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                              #29
                              Nay, it's the same rendering engine/framework but written to be much more lightweight and speedy.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Valken
                                As much as I love Safari I'd love to know what spec system they tested it's cold launch time on.
                                Whatever their highest end system at the time of testing is, that's what they use to generate marketing results. Sure *you* mightn't be able to easily scroll through 25000 images in the latest version of iPhoto on your system, but Steve Jobs sure can when he's up on stage in front of a Dual Processor G5 with 8GB of RAM installed.

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