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    #61
    One last attempt before calling it a night:

    MonkeyWrench ... 55.221 ... Amuse S2000 Street Version 2004 (JPN)
    Last edited by MonkeyWrench; 21-03-2005, 08:50.

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      #62
      Is there any other advantages to manual shifting, such as engine braking?

      Still struggling to do a 56 lap in the S2000. I hate this course

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        #63
        Yes, switch to manual gears. The CPU changes them way too early and is too slow at changing down. It's probably forcing you to use 4th gear in the S bends when 3rd is better.

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          #64
          Me ... 55.322 ... Amuse S2000 Street Version 2004

          Will update leaderboard shortly

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            #65
            Lets clarify. I have all three versions (so far) i.e the Japanese, American and PAL versions. The cars in all three versions have the same amount of horsepower. There are some discrepancies in the PAL version in GT Mode due I suspect to PD using the PS figure in a couple of places regardless of the units you decide to select.

            The figures on the lists do not match the power of any of the stock cars. If they are all +20% on power and -10% on weight then the positions of the cars on the list will not change with stock figures. I will play around with my list of arcade power figures and weights (I typed the power figures in from a German site and seem reasonably accurate). Power in the Arcade will be different to the power of the same stock car in the garage if the car has had an oil change.

            I can't remember which version I used for the times I submitted (I suspect it was the Japanese one as that is the only 100% save I have with all the cars in it) and the power figures did not match the ones on the list.

            Here are the Kg/PS figures for the cars used so far:

            Amuse S2000 ('04) - 4.69
            Nissan Fairlady Z Version ST (Opt. Wheel) ('02) - 5.07
            Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. VII GT-A ('02) - 4.68
            Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (R34) ('00) - 4.67
            Lotus Elise 111S ('03) - 5.17

            I must give that Amuse a go.
            Last edited by Bassman; 21-03-2005, 06:57.

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              #66
              Starter for 10:

              Superstarbeejay - 57.709 - Amuse S2000 ('04) - PAL version Arcade mode.
              Last edited by superstarbeejay; 21-03-2005, 08:33.

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                #67
                Leaderboard updated, can I just ask that everyone posts which version they used with future times (JPN/USA/PAL) just in case we need it for reference until we get things sorted.

                Cheers.

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                  #68
                  I would suggest going with this list as it is pretty close to the one we have been following and all the cars used so far are on it.

                  Nissan Skyline GT-R Mid. Purple II (R34) '99 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 4.67 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R Mid. Purple III (R34) '00 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 4.67 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (R34) '00 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 4.67 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R34) '99 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 4.67 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Toms X540 Chaser '00 - 319 PS 1491 Kgs 4.67 Kg/PS FR
                  Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. VII GT-A '02 - 316 PS 1480 Kgs 4.68 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Amuse S2000 '04 - 254 PS 1191 Kgs 4.69 Kg/PS FR
                  Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. II GSR '94 - 266 PS 1250 Kgs 4.7 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. III GSR '95 - 268 PS 1260 Kgs 4.7 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '96 - 266 PS 1251 Kgs 4.7 Kg/PS FR
                  Honda NSX Type S '01 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 4.71 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda NSX Type S '97 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 4.71 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda NSX Type S '99 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 4.71 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '95 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 4.72 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 4.72 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '97 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 4.72 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Chevrolet Camaro SS '00 - 330 PS 1558 Kgs 4.72 Kg/PS FR
                  Pontiac GTO 5.7 '04 - 357 PS 1690 Kgs 4.73 Kg/PS FR
                  Acura NSX Coupe '97 - 293 PS 1391 Kgs 4.75 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '95 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 4.75 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 4.75 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '97 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 4.75 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec LM Ltd. (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 4.75 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R N1 (R32) '91 - 309 PS 1470 Kgs 4.76 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R32) '93 - 309 PS 1470 Kgs 4.76 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Volkswagen New Beetle Cup Car '00 - 246 PS 1171 Kgs 4.76 Kg/PS FF
                  Ford Focus RS '02 - 220 PS 1049 Kgs 4.77 Kg/PS FF
                  Honda NSX '01 - 280 PS 1341 Kgs 4.79 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) '91 - 309 PS 1481 Kgs 4.79 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Nissan 350Z GT4 Limited Edition (Z33) '05 - 300 PS 1440 Kgs 4.8 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '92 - 256 PS 1229 Kgs 4.8 Kg/PS FR
                  Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69 - 294 PS 1414 Kgs 4.81 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RS '96 - 266 PS 1280 Kgs 4.81 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R '97 - 266 PS 1280 Kgs 4.81 Kg/PS FR
                  Audi S4 '03 - 345 PS 1662 Kgs 4.82 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Honda NSX '97 - 280 PS 1350 Kgs 4.82 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda NSX '99 - 280 PS 1350 Kgs 4.82 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R32) '94 - 311 PS 1501 Kgs 4.83 Kg/PS 4WD
                  FPV F6 Typhoon '04 - 367 PS 1776 Kgs 4.84 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '93 - 256 PS 1239 Kgs 4.84 Kg/PS FR
                  Honda NSX '90 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 4.86 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda NSX '93 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 4.86 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda NSX '95 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 4.86 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R32) '93 - 309 PS 1501 Kgs 4.86 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. IV GSR '96 - 277 PS 1350 Kgs 4.87 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '95 - 256 PS 1250 Kgs 4.88 Kg/PS FR
                  Spoon Integra Type-R (DC2) '99 - 220 PS 1080 Kgs 4.91 Kg/PS FF
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R '91 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 4.92 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R '93 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 4.92 Kg/PS FR
                  Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R-S '95 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 4.92 Kg/PS FR
                  Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '99 - 250 PS 1240 Kgs 4.96 Kg/PS FR
                  Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. GSR '92 - 249 PS 1240 Kgs 4.98 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Ginetta G4 '64 - 91 PS 454 Kgs 4.99 Kg/PS FR
                  Holden Commodore SS Series II '04 - 332 PS 1658 Kgs 4.99 Kg/PS FR
                  Holden Monaro CV8 '04 - 332 PS 1658 Kgs 4.99 Kg/PS FR
                  Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT '03 - 282 PS 1411 Kgs 5 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Opel Speedster Turbo '00 - 200 PS 1006 Kgs 5.03 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '02 - 286 PS 1439 Kgs 5.03 Kg/PS FR
                  Acura NSX '04 - 284 PS 1429 Kgs 5.03 Kg/PS MR
                  Honda S2000 '01 - 246 PS 1240 Kgs 5.04 Kg/PS FR
                  Honda S2000 '99 - 246 PS 1240 Kgs 5.04 Kg/PS FR
                  Acura NSX '91 - 270 PS 1365 Kgs 5.06 Kg/PS MR
                  Nissan Fairlady Z Version ST (Opt. Wheel) '02 - 286 PS 1450 Kgs 5.07 Kg/PS FR
                  Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec B '03 - 282 PS 1431 Kgs 5.07 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT '03 - 282 PS 1431 Kgs 5.07 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Honda S2000 '03 - 246 PS 1250 Kgs 5.08 Kg/PS FR
                  Chrysler Prowler '02 - 253 PS 1288 Kgs 5.09 Kg/PS FR
                  Alpine A110 1600S '73 - 140 PS 715 Kgs 5.11 Kg/PS RR
                  Honda S2000 Type-V '00 - 246 PS 1260 Kgs 5.12 Kg/PS FR
                  Honda S2000 Type-V '01 - 246 PS 1260 Kgs 5.12 Kg/PS FR
                  Subaru Legacy B4 RSK '98 - 280 PS 1439 Kgs 5.14 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec B '03 - 282 PS 1450 Kgs 5.14 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Lotus Elise 111S '03 - 156 PS 806 Kgs 5.17 Kg/PS MR
                  Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen '00 - 280 PS 1450 Kgs 5.18 Kg/PS 4WD
                  Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 - 245 PS 1269 Kgs 5.18 Kg/PS MR

                  Seeing as:

                  Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car '98 - 185 PS 931 Kgs 5.03 Kg/PS FF

                  is in the range but is a race car should it be excluded?
                  Last edited by Bassman; 21-03-2005, 09:35.

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                    #69
                    I'm on PAL, if anyone cares (which they probably won't until I get competitive).

                    I've a question, by the way. Why do both John and Bassman list the kg/PS number, rather than its inverse? Surely you want the power/weight ratio, not the weight/power ratio? I'd have thought the number you want is (1000*PS/kg) to give the power per tonne.

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                      #70
                      I only copied the first list. I am happy to produce it in the other format:

                      Nissan Skyline GT-R Mid. Purple II (R34) '99 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 214.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R Mid. Purple III (R34) '00 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 214.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (R34) '00 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 214.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R34) '99 - 332 PS 1551 Kgs 214.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Toms X540 Chaser '00 - 319 PS 1491 Kgs 213.95 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. VII GT-A '02 - 316 PS 1480 Kgs 213.51 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Amuse S2000 '04 - 254 PS 1191 Kgs 213.27 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. II GSR '94 - 266 PS 1250 Kgs 212.8 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. III GSR '95 - 268 PS 1260 Kgs 212.7 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '96 - 266 PS 1251 Kgs 212.63 PS/Tonne FR
                      Honda NSX Type S '01 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 212.28 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda NSX Type S '97 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 212.28 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda NSX Type S '99 - 280 PS 1319 Kgs 212.28 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '95 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 211.9 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 211.9 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) '97 - 324 PS 1529 Kgs 211.9 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Chevrolet Camaro SS '00 - 330 PS 1558 Kgs 211.81 PS/Tonne FR
                      Pontiac GTO 5.7 '04 - 357 PS 1690 Kgs 211.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Acura NSX Coupe '97 - 293 PS 1391 Kgs 210.64 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '95 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 210.39 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 210.39 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R33) '97 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 210.39 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec LM Ltd. (R33) '96 - 324 PS 1540 Kgs 210.39 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R N1 (R32) '91 - 309 PS 1470 Kgs 210.2 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec N1 (R32) '93 - 309 PS 1470 Kgs 210.2 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Volkswagen New Beetle Cup Car '00 - 246 PS 1171 Kgs 210.08 PS/Tonne FF
                      Ford Focus RS '02 - 220 PS 1049 Kgs 209.72 PS/Tonne FF
                      Honda NSX '01 - 280 PS 1341 Kgs 208.8 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R (R32) '91 - 309 PS 1481 Kgs 208.64 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Nissan 350Z GT4 Limited Edition (Z33) '05 - 300 PS 1440 Kgs 208.33 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '92 - 256 PS 1229 Kgs 208.3 PS/Tonne FR
                      Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69 - 294 PS 1414 Kgs 207.92 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RS '96 - 266 PS 1280 Kgs 207.81 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R '97 - 266 PS 1280 Kgs 207.81 PS/Tonne FR
                      Audi S4 '03 - 345 PS 1662 Kgs 207.58 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Honda NSX '97 - 280 PS 1350 Kgs 207.41 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda NSX '99 - 280 PS 1350 Kgs 207.41 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R32) '94 - 311 PS 1501 Kgs 207.2 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      FPV F6 Typhoon '04 - 367 PS 1776 Kgs 206.64 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '93 - 256 PS 1239 Kgs 206.62 PS/Tonne FR
                      Honda NSX '90 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 205.93 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda NSX '93 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 205.93 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda NSX '95 - 278 PS 1350 Kgs 205.93 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec (R32) '93 - 309 PS 1501 Kgs 205.86 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. IV GSR '96 - 277 PS 1350 Kgs 205.19 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type RZ '95 - 256 PS 1250 Kgs 204.8 PS/Tonne FR
                      Spoon Integra Type-R (DC2) '99 - 220 PS 1080 Kgs 203.7 PS/Tonne FF
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R '91 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 203.17 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R '93 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 203.17 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R-S '95 - 256 PS 1260 Kgs 203.17 PS/Tonne FR
                      Nissan Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '99 - 250 PS 1240 Kgs 201.61 PS/Tonne FR
                      Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. GSR '92 - 249 PS 1240 Kgs 200.81 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Ginetta G4 '64 - 91 PS 454 Kgs 200.44 PS/Tonne FR
                      Holden Commodore SS Series II '04 - 332 PS 1658 Kgs 200.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Holden Monaro CV8 '04 - 332 PS 1658 Kgs 200.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT '03 - 282 PS 1411 Kgs 199.86 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Opel Speedster Turbo '00 - 200 PS 1006 Kgs 198.81 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '02 - 286 PS 1439 Kgs 198.75 PS/Tonne FR
                      Acura NSX '04 - 284 PS 1429 Kgs 198.74 PS/Tonne MR
                      Honda S2000 '01 - 246 PS 1240 Kgs 198.39 PS/Tonne FR
                      Honda S2000 '99 - 246 PS 1240 Kgs 198.39 PS/Tonne FR
                      Acura NSX '91 - 270 PS 1365 Kgs 197.8 PS/Tonne MR
                      Nissan Fairlady Z Version ST (Opt. Wheel) '02 - 286 PS 1450 Kgs 197.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Subaru Legacy B4 2.0GT Spec B '03 - 282 PS 1431 Kgs 197.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT '03 - 282 PS 1431 Kgs 197.06 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Honda S2000 '03 - 246 PS 1250 Kgs 196.8 PS/Tonne FR
                      Chrysler Prowler '02 - 253 PS 1288 Kgs 196.43 PS/Tonne FR
                      Alpine A110 1600S '73 - 140 PS 715 Kgs 195.8 PS/Tonne RR
                      Honda S2000 Type-V '00 - 246 PS 1260 Kgs 195.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Honda S2000 Type-V '01 - 246 PS 1260 Kgs 195.24 PS/Tonne FR
                      Subaru Legacy B4 RSK '98 - 280 PS 1439 Kgs 194.58 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon B4 2.0GT Spec B '03 - 282 PS 1450 Kgs 194.48 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Lotus Elise 111S '03 - 156 PS 806 Kgs 193.55 PS/Tonne MR
                      Subaru Legacy B4 Blitzen '00 - 280 PS 1450 Kgs 193.1 PS/Tonne 4WD
                      Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 - 245 PS 1269 Kgs 193.07 PS/Tonne MR

                      And the Honda racer...

                      Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car '98 - 185 PS 931 Kgs 198.71 PS/Tonne FF
                      Last edited by Bassman; 21-03-2005, 10:13.

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                        #71
                        Ta muchly! I was really wondering more than anything. I'm no expert on car-worship, and just didn't know if this is a standard thing...

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                          #72
                          I admittedly produced it in that format initially and then adjusted it in line with the other list.

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                            #73
                            Rossco ... 56.857 ... Amuse S2000 Street Version 2004


                            Chopped about 8/10s of a second off my last time, though I would have went up the leaderboard a little more than 1 place with it.

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                              #74
                              Ravon ... 55.145... Amuse S2000 Street Version 2004

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                                #75
                                Screw you!!

                                I know I can do better, but always screw up. The ghost car puts me under too much pressure!

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