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    Everything in the first post of that thread comes from details released officially in the POL viewer so it is not classed as psoilers. In fact, there is actually MORE details in the POL viewer as it details the names and requirements of each of the ENMs.

    Originally posted by Darwock
    to stop people bringing in their lazy low-level mates as an alternative to power-levelling.
    They have already thought of this. You can only gain one level at a time in the battlefield. Any EXP received afterwards will stop when you are 1EXP to your next level.

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      my bet is Zanshin, it be like double attack/counter it go off every now and then when an attack misses, an attack with out delay happens acting like a double attack.

      Muahahhaha.. Sam/war double att+Zanshin = TP heaven, i bet it be there for Sub to use so i reckon 30-37 sam for it.

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        Whats going on with the lvl 10 party?

        If its not tonight would anyone wanna party at around lvl 31-32?

        As well as that I am going to be trying out the new fishing system on the Selbina - Mhuara Boat, hopefully make a bit of gil at the same time.
        Last edited by mikewl; 23-02-2005, 19:02.

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          Originally posted by C'
          Sadly, as I was kind of worried about the one that seems most LS members can do is lvl30 cap which means I'm out >.<
          There are some level 40 ones which you have gear for right? Most of the LS have at least one job at 40 or higher now

          Just getting the update so will be online in an hour ish if the 10 party is happening tonight...

          *Actually at the moment POV says 2hours 40.... *

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            OMG, They Just Made RNGs Suck Versus Kited HNMs =_=
            "If the target of a ranged attack moves out of weapon range, the ranged
            attack will now automatically miss."
            Goning To Make HNMs Slower And More Expensive

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              Someone tell me this 5 hour download time is exaggurated

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                And You Can Now Changed Recast Time On Sharpshot and Rapid Shot, But
                Not Barrage ENMs Look Fun, I Bet The Level 75s Give Some Decent
                Exp and Are Nice To Do If You Need A Buffer After Some HNM Deaths.

                Overall Update Looks Positive, Apart From The RNG Gimping And The
                Lack Of Merit Additions To Some Jobs E.g Ninja

                I Think The Samurai Job Trait Will Probably Only Active On The First Miss,
                Are They Helping Samurais Without +Acc Here?

                Increased Double Attack Will Only Work For WAR75 Unfortunatley.

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                  Originally posted by Daragon
                  Someone tell me this 5 hour download time is exaggurated
                  I suspect it is exaggerated. I downloaded and installed the patches in less than an hour.

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                    Still got another 1hr 15 left /sigh.

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                      Mine was about an hour, started at 6:40 or so.

                      Can I just say.. Fishing!??!? Man, radical changes! Don't do what me, Mihki and I think Wedge all did and use a rig on your first attempt ><

                      I think this spells the end of fishbotting.. goodbye Mysales now gtf off our boat! lol

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                        Regarding Zanshin - yes it ****ing owns.

                        But no, you only attack once with the Zanshin attack. If you miss it, then you miss and must wait for your delay time to refresh. Very good job trait tbh, makes me think my DRK with adaman hauberk is absolutely underpowered now. CANT WAIT to play SAM at JP peak hours, so close to Tachi Gekkou

                        BTW, the WHM job ability allows you to cast spells like erase on a small group of players. I wonder if it can be subbed? Would be good for RDMs. Its VERY useful for Dynamis-Xarcabard. The mobs there do AOE rasp etc that takes 20+HP per tick. Not to mention poison that does 50 per tick.

                        I'll post a proper impression of Zanshin after I finish downloading updates. Too bad my SAM isn't 75 or I would spend my merit points on Meditate and Zanshin. I wonder how much time you can cut off?

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                          I still can't get over how incredibly useless the NIN merit points upgrades are.

                          Sorry, but no matter how much of a boost they get, at level 75, a nuke from level 40 just isn't going to cut it >.>
                          Last edited by C'; 23-02-2005, 20:54.

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                            I agree. For me its a good thing because It gives me less merit points to strive towards to Would've been nice to use merit points to cut down Utsusemi Ichi cast time or even Utsusem recast time. Oh well.

                            I still can't over how insane SAM will be after full medidate/zanshin merits...DRK is so underpowered now its not fair.

                            Oh and Bayan, Rangers are not allowed to complain

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                              What I don't get is why they didn't allow NIN to improve Utsusemi (the spell that arguably defines the NIN class). Whether it was Utsusemi Recast or maybe even adding an extra shadow to each spell. Some people on messageboards have argued that it would make NIN too powerful or create unbalance, whilst seemingly failing to realise that MP only comes into play at 75, so it's not like a massive imbalnce occurs.

                              Maybe isuch an improvement would make traditional blink-tanking more likely against some HNM (although my knowledge of such battles is nil so can't comment fully).

                              Hell, in the absence of Jubaku: Ni (give me Jubaku: Ni dammit) an improvement to that would have been better than what we got.

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                                Well, it WOULD be a huge imbalance because PLD/NIN would be even more insane than it already is.

                                We do our HNMs with PLD/NINs pretty comfortably. Adding shadows to the exisiting Ichi and Ni would make it a walk in the park, no joke.

                                I don't think Subtle Blow is too bad tbh. If I didn't already have 10 other jobs in need of MP I'd definitely improve my SB trait.

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