Post everytime you get ANYTHING retro. We want to know (^v^)

[anephric]

Plus the CDZ's enlarged buffer makes a difference; at least it does... in my mind.

[Duddyroar]

Plus both NeoGeo CD systems suffer from terrible build quality - the lasers die after a few years of moderate use and are near-impossible to replace.

[anephric]

My CDZ's still going strong... never had a read error or a heat-related reset. I do nurse it carefully though. With the milk from my breasts.

[kernow]

"Plus both NeoGeo CD systems suffer from terrible build quality - the lasers die after a few years of moderate use and are near-impossible to replace."

thats bool****, the top loader is solid as rock.

but,

why bother with CD when you can get an MVS setup?

[anephric]

Because it's less hassle?

[kernow]

not really, if you're careful to plan it all out before you just jump in and buy

if you're that worried you could get a commercial supergun instead of a 'home made' one so to speak, I have an uberia minigun, mainly because the guys my flatmate, but these do the job pretty well, coupled with a one slot I dont see what could go wrong.

its plug and play as long as you got a decent supergun and not a bunch of wires, and that supergun has its correct psu with it. I guess its a bit of research, but the pain now will be saved later when you're playing your neocd making lots of cups of tea per round.

sure, you've got the chance of getting more bootleg MVS carts, but peoples neocd collections usually include TDK discs from what I've seen in the past

unless its for collectability, or because you like the soundtracks on the CD games, I'd go for an MVS every time personally.

[anephric]

sure, you've got the chance of getting more bootleg MVS carts, but peoples neocd collections usually include TDK discs from what I've seen in the past http://ntsc-uk.domino.org/images/smilie/ph34r.gif

I own nary a single NGCD bootleg. I iz a good boy.

You do have to admit it takes a little more knowhow to sort out a Supergun (let alone build one) than to just shell out ?100 or so on eBay for a NGCD iteration...

[Duddyroar]

thats bool****, the top loader is solid as rock

Oh really?

I've owned one myself and after a few months of trouble-free play I started getting read errors (and I ensure my CD-based machines are well cooled during play). I reasoned that it was a fairly simple problem to fix and rang Telegames (not the best idea, I know). They said they could repair it but it would cost upwards of ?100. I told them to go bollocks and started looking elsewhere - I tried the CEX Retro store (which is no longer there) and the chap behind the counter said they were no longer having anything to do with NGCD consoles - he then produced a box with four top-loading NGCD units in it, all with the same problem. It said it was a very common problem with the machines.

If you have a look on the net you'll find many other machines have had this happen. All CD-based consoles are going to fail at some point but the NGCD seems to be one of the first to go.

[kernow]

I'd say a ps2 would go before a neocd top loader

I guess its all swings and roundabouts, I've had mine for 6 years or something and never had a single problem, and I know baseleys had his for 10yrs or so, and the same, and a lot of people have no problems with the top loader at ng.com either, but sure theres problems with the other two designs.

have you owned a dead gamecube too perchance ? I never saw one of those either.

*shrugs*

[Duddyroar]

Overheating seems to be the main cause of drive failure with the NeoGeo CD.

http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/neogeo_cd.htm

This is only site I could find that makes reference to this but I only looked for about 30 seconds. I know I've read elsewhere about drive problems with the CD and CDZ consoles.

If take good care of the machine then you'll be ok. But I thought I was taking good care of mine and the drive failed eventually. And if the problem was so common that CEX Retro were refusing to take machines in, then that gives you a fair indication of how widespread it was.

[wheelaa]

And if the problem was so common that CEX Retro were refusing to take machines in, then that gives you a fair indication of how widespread it was.

Ah yes..CEX Retro..teh gods! I wouldn't have taken a broken machine there if I'd been paid to.

[anephric]

Overheating seems to be the main cause of drive failure with the NeoGeo CD.

I know I've read elsewhere about drive problems with the CD and CDZ consoles.

No, you're absolutely right, but of the three it's the CDZ that's infamously short-lived. Then the front-loader. Then the top-loader (which is what peeps go for for reliability, I believe).

The CDZ was rushed into production and made with not-entirely top-notch parts. I bought mine on the promise of less painful load times... and because I thought it was pretty.

[Duddyroar]

Ah yes..CEX Retro..teh gods! I wouldn't have taken a broken machine there if I'd been paid to

Well, I didn't actually take my NGCD there to get it fixed...I visited to buy my Nomad and simply asked about it when I was there. To start off with Retro CEX was an excellent store, with plenty of stock, fair prices and very smart staff. Like the rest of the CEX brand, it was eventually reduced to the dumbed-down swap-shop it is today.

[MonkeyJuggleDX]

My GB collection at the mo.



Just got SD Lupin III & Loderunner, few more on the way.

[Baseley09]

Overheating seems to be the main cause of drive failure with the NeoGeo CD.

http://www.cyberiapc.com/vgg/neogeo_cd.htm

This is only site I could find that makes reference to this but I only looked for about 30 seconds. I know I've read elsewhere about drive problems with the CD and CDZ consoles.

If take good care of the machine then you'll be ok. But I thought I was taking good care of mine and the drive failed eventually. And if the problem was so common that CEX Retro were refusing to take machines in, then that gives you a fair indication of how widespread it was.

I think the overheat is only native to the CDZ, best thing to cure that is keep a space below it to let her breath.

It seems some people do have horror stories with NGCD death, and are quite vocal about it, tho tbh i know a lot of peeps including myself have had them forever, kicked the **** out of them and never had a problem.