Must have saturn and dc games

[gingerj]

The only game needed for your DC

[Mu5]

Thanks for the info bro

http://www.ntsc-uk.com/review.php?pl...ame=Psyvariar2

Looks like my jap DC will have to get fired up!

[S3M]

The saturn really is all about the shooters and fighters there isnt much other stuff that holds uop that well, besides the obvious ones like Nights.

I'd say the Dreamcast has a lot weaker line up than the Saturn's and it's alot more than just shooters and fighters.

Here goes with the Saturn List list.

RPG
Dragon Force 1 & 2
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Shining Force III Scenario 1,2,3
Shining the Holy Ark
Shining Wisdom
The Story of Thor 2
Dark Savior
Mystaria The Realms of Lore 1 & 2
Grandia & Grandia Digital Museum
Ogre Battle
Tactics Ogre
Lunar 1 & 2
Wachenroder
Langrisser 3,4,5 & DM pack with 1 & 2 in it.
Samurai Spirits RPG
Shadows of the Tusk
Chaos Seed
Devil Summoner 1 & 2
Far East of Eden 4
Princess Crown
Phantasy Star Collection
Magic Knight Rayearth
Albert Odyssey
Vandel Hearts
Genso Suikoden

Horror
D
Deep Fear
Enemy Zero
Resident Evil (Has a number of extra not in ps version)

Platformers
Croc
Bug 1 & 2
Clockwork Knight 1 & 2 (Get the Japanese Double pack)
Super Tempo
Sonic Jam
Sonic 3D
Pandemonium
Tomb Raider
Burning Rangers
Elevator Action2 Returns
Bubble Symphony
Mizubaku Adventure
Rayman
Bubble Bobble & Rainbow Islands
Dracula X
Astal
Megaman 8
Megaman X4
Swagman

FPS
Duke Nukem 3D
Exhumed
Quake
Hexen
Space Hulk

Pinball
Tilt
Fantasic Pinball

Puzzle Arcade
Worms
Puzzle Bobble 2 & 3
Baku Baku
Pastel Muses
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
Hebereke's Popoitto
Tetris Plus
Cleopatra Fortune

Puzzle Point & Click
Discworld 1 & 2
Lost Viking 2
Torico
3D Lemmings
Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari
Super Adventure Rockman
Myst
Riven
Nazomakaimura Incredible Toons

Light Gun
Virtua Cop 1 & 2
Mighty Hits (I like it anyway)
House of the Dead (Bad port)
Policenauts (Also has puzzle elements)

Strategy
Command & Conquer
Warcraft 2
Iron Storm (Advance World War 1 & 2)
Theme Park
Master of Monster
Simcity 2000
The Horde
Z

Sport (Not my best subject)
Athlete Kings
Winter Heats
Steep Slope Sliders
Sega Worldwide Soccer 97 or 98
NBA Action 98

Racing
Sega Rally
Daytona CE (Jap version)
Sega Touring Car
Virtua Racing
Wipeout 2097
Choro Q Park
Need for Speed
Sonic R
King The Spirits
Street Racer

Scrolling Beat'em up's
Guardian Heroes
Die Hard Arcade
Pulirula Acrade Gears
Dungeons & Dragons Collection

Vs Fighter 3D
Dead or Alive
Virtua Fighter 2
Virtua Fighter Kids
Fighters Megamix
Fighting Vipers (Japanese version)
Zero Divide
Last Bronx
Virtual On
Robopit
Victory Boxing

Vs Fighters 2D
King of Fighters 95,96,97
Samurai Spirits 3 & 4
Fatal Fury Real Bout & Real Bout Special
X-Men COTA
Marvel Super Heroes
X-Men Vs Street Fighter
Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter
Street Fighter Collection (Alpha 2 gold, is better than Alpha 3)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Pocket Fighters
Cyberbots
Vampire Hunter & Savior (Prefer Hunter, more myself)
Waku Waku 7
Astra Superstars
Groove on Fight

Shooters Not Tradition
Metal Slug
Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru
Vatlva
Assault Suit Leynos 2
Gun Griffon 1 & 2
AMOK
Mass Destruction
Tempest 2000
Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2
Prikura Daisakusen
Dark Light Conflict
Stellar Assault SS
Soviet Strike
Silhouette Mirage
Bulk Slash
Thunder Hawk 2

Shooters Vertical
Radiant Silvergun
The Game Paradise!
Gunbird
Shienryu
Donpachi
Dodonpachi
Layer Section
Layer Section 2
Soukyugurentai
Battle Garegga
Kingdom Grandprix
Sonic Wing Special
Twinkle Star Spirites (Much better than DC version)

Shooters Horizontal
Thunder Force 5
Sengoku Blade
Hyper Duel
Darius Gaiden & 2
Parodius Double Pack, Jikkyou Osyaberi Parodius, Sexy Parodius
Cotton 2 & Boomerang

Retro Packs
Capcom Generations 1 to 5
Gradius Deluxe Pack
Salamander Deluxe Pack
Twinbee Deluxe Pack
Sega Ages Outrun, Super Hang On etc.
Sega Ages Fantasy Zone
Sega Ages Mickey & Donald
Thunder Force Gold Packs 1 & 2
Chase HQ plus S.C.I
Arcade Gears 3 Wonders
and Many More.

Others games
Saturn Bomberman
Bomberman Fight
Bomberman Wars
Night Striker S
Fire Prowrestling S 6 Men Scramble
All Japan Pro Wrestling
Nights
Christmas Nights
Rampage World Tour

That about the best of the best, a few titles are missing mainly In the Hunt and Keio 2 as I haven?t been able to get hold of copies of them. Lot of games I haven't listed as well.

[nightstalker100]

Whoa! Youre obviously the man to talk to when it comes to saturn. Any chance you could narrow down the "essential titles" so to speak

[Big Seany]

Sexy Parodius is my current fave. SHould have seen the expression on the wife's face when she came out the garage the other night as I was shooting the **** out of a giant corn on the cob with eyes.

Quality game though son.

[S3M]

Whoa! Youre obviously the man to talk to when it comes to saturn. Any chance you could narrow down the "essential titles" so to speak

Trust me mate they are all "essential titles" but if you want a AAAA list then I would recommend these.

RPG
Dragon Force 1 & 2
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Shining Force III Scenario 1,2,3
Shining the Holy Ark
The Story of Thor 2
Grandia
Princess Crown

Horror
Resident Evil (Has a number of extra not in ps version)

Platformers
Bug!
Burning Rangers
Elevator Action2 Returns
Bubble Symphony
Dracula X
Megaman X4

FPS
Duke Nukem 3D
Exhumed

Puzzle Arcade
Puzzle Bobble 2
Baku Baku
Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

Sport (Not my best subject)
Athlete Kings
Winter Heats
Steep Slope Sliders

Racing
Sega Rally
Daytona CE (Jap version)

Light Gun
Virtua Cop 1 & 2

Scrolling Beat'em up's
Guardian Heroes
Dungeons & Dragons Collection

Vs Fighter 3D
Dead or Alive
Virtua Fighter 2
Fighters Megamix
Last Bronx
Virtual On

Vs Fighters 2D
King of Fighters 96
Samurai Spirits 4
X-Men COTA
Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter
Street Fighter Collection
Cyberbots
Vampire Hunter
Astra Superstars

Shooters Not Tradition
Metal Slug
Vatlva
Gun Griffon 1 & 2
Panzer Dragoon 1 & 2
Silhouette Mirage

Shooters Vertical
Radiant Silvergun
Battle Garegga

Shooters Horizontal
Thunder Force 5
Sengoku Blade

Others games
Saturn Bomberman
Nights
Christmas Nights

That I would say is the very best of the best, many people would disapprove of the games I have taken out however.

[wheelaa]

Tenchi wu Kurau 2 is far superior to D&D.

[SharkSkin-Man]

Dracula X on SS is pap - slows down so much it could be a Treasure game.

[S3M]

Tenchi wu Kurau 2 is far superior to D&D.

So I've hearded, it's also about the only Capcom game on the Saturn I haven't play, I liked the arcade version when I play it. Does the Saturn conversion have many extra's?

As D&D does offer a lot of replay value, with the many ways through the game.

[rmoxon]

Besides the 2d Fighters and Shooters I would say hardly anything else on the saturn is "essential" as many of them seem very dated by todays standards, its not like I'm saying you should only buy shooters, fighters and treasure games for the saturn, but I think that big list is deffinitley one of more than just essential games. Especially when you also consider the fact that somthing like say, Elevator Action Returns and several others you mentioned will all be, or already are, aviliable on current gen consoles on compilations or whatever.

Also do not go near Bug! its the dullest game ever!!!!!

[Mad Gear]

Bug Too is better or even Astal.

[S3M]

Besides the 2d Fighters and Shooters I would say hardly anything else on the saturn is "essential" as many of them seem very dated by todays standards, its not like I'm saying you should only buy shooters, fighters and treasure games for the saturn, but I think that big list is deffinitley one of more than just essential games. Especially when you also consider the fact that somthing like say, Elevator Action Returns and several others you mentioned will all be, or already are, aviliable on current gen consoles on compilations or whatever.

Also do not go near Bug! its the dullest game ever!!!!!

The same point can be leveled even more so at the DC, as a lot of the Dreamcast hard hitters have been released on other formats. The following names spring to mind.

Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
RE Code Veronica
Crazy Taxi
Shenmue 2
Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike

Bug is a great game and some of the later worlds looked really good. Bug Too had so many problems, the first world was badly designed and very very dull. It got better as it went on however.

[kyo_244]

Anything sonicteam is also a must imo!

[rmoxon]

The same point can be leveled even more so at the DC, as a lot of the Dreamcast hard hitters have been released on other formats. The following names spring to mind.

Grandia 2
Skies of Arcadia
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
RE Code Veronica
Crazy Taxi
Shenmue 2
Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike

Bug is a great game and some of the later worlds looked really good. Bug Too had so many problems, the first world was badly designed and very very dull. It got better as it went on however.

Shemue 2 was badly Dubbed On the Xbox
Mavel Vs Capcom 2 looks better on the DC
Its arguable which version of the other games is best but all the other games have rubbish load times on the PS2 and if you have a DC then you should get those games for it.

Most of the saturn games that got "updates" or ports are exactly the same on current gen consoles. So this means you don't NEED them on the saturn when you can pick them up more easily and cheapley on another machine.

Bug! looked great at the time of release sure, but the gameplay is dull and the level design is just as boring. Plus its quite a big game, so even if you could be bothered to play it the lack of both checkpoints and the fact that there is no way to save your game means I doubt anyone would ever finish it either. But then I really doubt most people would want too anyway.

[sj33]

You could indeed argue that every single one of those titles is superior on the Dreamcast.

(We could get into a debate over whether there is a difference between Biohazard Code Veronica Complete on DC and Code Veronica X on GC... DC still has VGA mode, and both blow away the PS2 port. You might argue Grandia II on PC to be a little better in framerate and resolution, but the main game is identical, and again, much better than the PS2 port.)

Shenmue II on XBox was decent, but it lacked the little bit of sparkle the DC one had.

Your port is a good one though - The Dreamcast catalogue has pretty much been raped and released on other formats. In addition to the titles you mention, there's the likes of Sonic Adventure 1/2, Skies of Arcadia, F355, PSO, 18 Wheeler... seems the only games that stayed Dreamcast-only were the Model 3 ports (ironically, titles I'd love to see re-ported to other consoles sometime).