UK/PAL SNES release list

[hydr0x]

So hydr0x finally appears, nice to meet you.

For someone who seems to think my list is obsolete, you seem very willing to borrow the information on this website with out even asking.

nice to meet you too, i always enjoyed browsing through your dc faq in the past

well, i'm free to have an opinion, eh, and i only said i think my database makes your list obsolete (which per definition it does as yours contains no info mine doesn't). the only reason i said it that way was to make you fully aware of that fact. feel free to continue your project anyway, i'd even help you out if you have questions (i guess my game list is a good start...), but be aware that even your full fledged faq might not contain any info my db doesn't, at least game related that is.

about the "borrowing" of information you should rethink that. 1) no user stated anything like "for use with s3m list only" when posting the codes he owns 2) it's just information, a code is a code, no matter where i got it from (not that i'm missing too many mentioned here, and if i am, only country variations), there's absolutely no copyright on sth like a production number

Also your post comes across in a very arrogant manner (which I?m guessing you didn?t intend), as you seem to be demanding that I stop, almost as if you?re worried about something?

if it sounded arrogant i'm sorry, that wasn't my intention and it might have to do with the fact that i'm not a native english speaker

i do not demand that you stop your project, in fact, i don't really care as it doesn't influence my work at all. and yes, i was worried about sth, namely that you "waste" your time and talent on sth that's already done :/

Now I?m not going to explode into a ranting loony. In fact I?m going to start by congratulating you hydr0x on your hard work, as I know it can't have been easy.

But I don't intend to stop work on my list, as I intend to build it up to be like my Dreamcast FAQ, which is going to be a bit more detailed than just listing games released. Like you point out my list is currently mainly for the UK, but in the end I intend to break it down country by country of PAL releases. Also unlike your guide I offer 100% proof that each game exists by listing the cartridge code of the different versions.

i'm not sure if you even checked out "my guide" but i DO list every known cartridge/box combination, with code. And btw, a code is no proof, that's why i have a photo of every single game on my list.

Also there is plenty of room on the net for both lists so I don't see what you?re so concerned about.

For starters many people don't use DP as a resource, so I'm just giving them another option. (I could really rip into DP for some of their bad practices, like illegally hosting FAQ and what not, but I won't go into that. As your not directly linked with them.)

see above

By the way unless you count it as a different release, I?ve already spotted a game missing from your list.

unlikely, you might want to check if it's somewhere on the list where you didn't expect it (Disney's Aladdin -> Aladdin (Disney's) and so on). But if you really think sth is missing feel free to share it (i could search through your file, but i'm too lazy right now)

[hydr0x]

about the 2 codes, unfortunately i'm missing those either :/

[Will Menth]

Hello all, Im a collector and just anted to know how many snes games everyone one has.

[NeoClaret]

Wow this thread has gotten interesting all of a sudden

Originally Posted by Will Menth
Hello all, Im a collector and just anted to know how many snes games everyone one has.

About 220 ish. I bought some last month but haven't gotten around to adding them to my games list. About 5 SNES's, loads of pads, region converters and stuff like that. I even managed to sell some loose carts for once aswell.

But Neo Geo>Snes for me at this current moment in time

[S3M]

well, i'm free to have an opinion, eh, and i only said i think my database makes your list obsolete (which per definition it does as yours contains no info mine doesn't).

Again with the slightly arrogant statement, as what you have just said isn't 100% true if you look at my list you will noticed I point out which games come with bonus map and posters among other things.

about the "borrowing" of information you should rethink that. 1) no user stated anything like "for use with s3m list only" when posting the codes he owns 2) it's just information, a code is a code, no matter where i got it from (not that i'm missing too many mentioned here, and if i am, only country variations), there's absolutely no copyright on sth like a production number.

But it's good manners to ask, before taking.

I didn't demand that you stop your project, in fact, i don't really care as it doesn't influence my work at all. and yes, i was worried about sth, namely that you "waste" your time and talent on sth that's already. done :/

Your post came across in a very demanding manner and how may I ask is it a waste of my time? May want to check your English as "sth" isn't a word.

i'm not sure if you even checked out "my guide" but i DO list every known cartridge/box combination, with code. And btw, a code is no proof, that's why i have a photo of every single game on my list.

Your have to point out the codes to me as they aren't on your PDF list you placed for us to look at. As for pictures I wouldn't always trust them 100% as I've seen pictures of the PAL versions of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy III. Believe me they were very well done as well.

unlikely, you might want to check if it's somewhere on the list where you didn't expect it (Disney's Aladdin -> Aladdin (Disney's) and so on). But if you really think sth is missing feel free to share it (i could search through your file, but i'm too lazy right now)

Ha ha, trust me my friend I didn't make such a statement without checking your list.8) You can search my list but you will not find it on there as I have a picture of it but not the cartridge code. So I'm guessing either you missed it off you PDF list by mistake or you haven't confirm it exists.

As you listed the different versions of player manager it should be on your list.

As you where so sure you had all the game, I'll keep it back for now, if you can pm or list it's name I'll send you the picture I have.

Thanks for the offer of help but at the moment I'll stick with my sources to confirm UK releases for now.

As for my collection I have just under 100 PAL games and about 30 US and 50 Japanese and 95% of them are boxed and complete.

Funny thing with Adventures of Dr. Franken, The is it's not even that rare.

[hydr0x]

Again with the slightly arrogant statement, as what you have just said isn't 100% true if you look at my list you will noticed I point out which games come with bonus map and posters among other things.

sorry, but it is just the truth or else i wouldn't say it. i stated "a very basic version" when posting the games list as my actual list contains A LOT more data:

- aka names
- publisher
- developer
- rarity
- value
- game designer
- box/manual/cart combinations, plus all bonus material information
- special peripheral usage
- special chips and sram usage
- game rating of 2 mags (german Total! and british Super Play)
- copyright (if licensed material)
- serial numbers for cart, manuals and boxes
- genre
- coin-op based on
- release date
- release countries
- pegi rating

and more

But it's good manners to ask, before taking.

well everyone's free to say "please don't use my data on your list" and i will not use it

Your post came across in a very demanding manner and how may I ask is it a waste of my time? May want to check your English as "sth" isn't a word.

sth is an internet abbreviation as you very well know, no need to attack me for that on a board with the highest british slang rate i've ever seen

of course it's up to you to decide if it's a waste of time, if you enjoy doing it no matter if it's already done or not enjoy it (i know database work can be a lot of fun) but be aware of the fact that you're not doing something new

Your have to point out the codes to me as they aren't on your PDF list you placed for us to look at.

you already know i'm doing the list for DP, although it's outdated a look at a game like Super Mario World gives you a slight impression of what my list actually contains

As for pictures I wouldn't always trust them 100% as I've seen pictures of the PAL versions of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy III. Believe me they were very well done as well.

well trusting code+picture is better than just trusting code in any case... so what's your point here?

Ha ha, trust me my friend I didn't make such a statement without checking your list.8) You can search my list but you will not find it on there as I have a picture of it but not the cartridge code. So I'm guessing either you missed it off you PDF list by mistake or you haven't confirm it exists.

i thought a picture was no proof

As you listed the different versions of player manager it should be on your list.

the different versions of player manager (and of champions world class soccer and of manchester united) are on the list because the actual data differs. if the game you're talking about has the exact same data on cart and just a different box it's listed as a variation of that game (which obviously aren't on the names only list)

As you where so sure you had all the game, I'll keep it back for now, if you can pm or list it's name I'll send you the picture I have.

well maybe you're thinking of something like Fighting Spirit aka Tuff E Nuff or some of the dozens of games with localized names. no idea, and i don't feel like guessing because i'm 99.9% sure it's on my list. If you don't want to share it with me now because you think of me as competition that's fine, but always remember you have to make it public one day cause otherwise that info is useless to you too (btw, i think there's easly 100 games on my list missing from yours so i shared a lot more with you already than just 1 variation of a game)

Thanks for the offer of help but at the moment I'll stick with my sources to confirm UK releases for now.

have fun! one question though, you stated several times you're doing UK, but still there's plenty of none-UK codes on your list, why's that?

Funny thing with Adventures of Dr. Franken, The is it's not even that rare.

well it's not too common either, but yeah, it's not rare. doesn't seem to popular though but we'll eventually find the code (in the worst case on the day i buy the game)

[NeoClaret]

Originally Posted by hydr0x
And btw, a code is no proof

I 100 % Disagree with you on that point. It is probably the best form of I.D. available as it is a code designated by Nintendo themselves.

Originally Posted by hydr0x
there's easly 100 games on my list missing from yours

If you have the CODES why not post them up I mean thats what this thread is all about..... the more the merrier

[hydr0x]

I 100 % Disagree with you on that point. It is probably the best form of I.D. available as it is a code designated by Nintendo themselves.

it's a good form of ID, yeah, but it doesn't tell you **** about if it was actually released. i could name dozens of examples of games where the code is known but the game was never released

If you have the CODES why not post them up I mean thats what this thread is all about..... the more the merrier

well, why should i post hundreds of codes if he refuses to share one single game name??

btw, Adventures of Dr. Franken, UK cart code: SNSP-6F-UKV

[S3M]

sth is an internet abbreviation as you very well know, no need to attack me for that on a board with the highest british slang rate i've ever seen

Just so you know I wasn't attacking you and no I have never seen anyone used "sth" as an internet abbreviation, not on any of the boards I've been too. Maybe a German one but I haven't seen it used in English.

of course it's up to you to decide if it's a waste of time, if you enjoy doing it no matter if it's already done or not enjoy it (i know database work can be a lot of fun) but be aware of the fact that you're not doing something new

Trust me it won't be and in the end you'll be very surprised.

have fun! one question though, you stated several times you're doing UK, but still there's plenty of none-UK codes on your list, why's that?

I already answered this in a previous post to you.

the different versions of player manager (and of champions world class soccer and of manchester united) are on the list because the actual data differs. if the game you're talking about has the exact same data on cart and just a different box it's listed as a variation of that game (which obviously aren't on the names only list)

well maybe you're thinking of something like Fighting Spirit aka Tuff E Nuff or some of the dozens of games with localized names. no idea, and i don't feel like guessing because i'm 99.9% sure it's on my list. If you don't want to share it with me now because you think of me as competition that's fine, but always remember you have to make it public one day cause otherwise that info is useless to you too

The player manager was a bit of a hint for a couple of reasons, it may just be localized name, but I doubt it. As there no rom of it on the net I can't check it out however and no it's not any of the games you've listed.

(btw, i think there's easly 100 games on my list missing from yours so i shared a lot more with you already than just 1 variation of a game)

That cause I have an unlisted code games list, which has over 500 titles on it, as only games with codes get listed. By the way I seen you haven't listed Mr Tuff, you think it's proto only?

it's a good form of ID, yeah, but it doesn't tell you **** about if it was actually released. i could name dozens of examples of games where the code is known but the game was never released

Not really that true, but the problem is you can easily make up the codes from the USA and Japanese releases, hence the reason for unreleased codes so for example.

Ogre Battle: SNSP-OB-UKV or SNSP-OB-EUR
Soul Blazer: SNSP-SO-UKV
Robotrek: SNSP-E9-UKV
Chrono Trigger: SNSP-CK-UKV or SNSP-CK-NOE
Super Mario RPG: SNSP-ARWE-UKV

Adventures of Dr. Franken, UK cart code: SNSP-6F-UKV

Ok thanks for the code. Just so you know it's an Imagineer game I've got under raps, but I need to check a few things on it.

[hydr0x]

The player manager was a bit of a hint for a couple of reasons, it may just be localized name, but I doubt it. As there no rom of it on the net I can't check it out however and no it's not any of the games you've listed.

well do you own the cart? if so, dump it and compare it to the existing roms with nsrt or a similar tool and see if it's a new dump. If it's not it's already on my list

That cause I have an unlisted code games list, which has over 500 titles on it, as only games with codes get listed. By the way I seen you haven't listed Mr Tuff, you think it's proto only?

yes Mr Tuff only exists as review copy / proto, the snes version that is

Not really that true, but the problem is you can easily make up the codes from the USA and Japanese releases, hence the reason for unreleased codes so for example.

it is true, there are dozens of snes US(!) codes of unreleased games, even some not released in Japan so it's not just converted codes or anything. Even boxart for those exists

Ok thanks for the code. Just so you know it's an Imagineer game I've got under raps, but I need to check a few things on it.

well then you probably mean another country variation of Player Manager (unlikely) or the french version of Rugby called Blanco World Class Rugby which is no different from the UK version

[trackNine]

Nice work so far on the list S3M, contrary to what has been impied so far your list is just fine - keeps to the bare essentials and only verified games. As a Text only list for collecting purposes, it's just as accessible as it needs to be.

Short of keeping evidence (pictral/physical/related material) of anomalies, such as games which are harder to verify as having had an official mainstream release (e.g only seen/found 1 copy in several years), you seem to have headed on the same track I (and a number of other collectors I know) use, and I can't really see a problem in skipping the odds and sods to concentrate on the main content.

I will however, lay off further contributing to your list from this point on.

Given the unfortunately typical retro "community" tone interjected into the topic, I'm reminded why collectors like myself find it best to avoid involvement in such efforts. Don't get me wrong, it seems like you started, and were making your list for all the right reasons - just because you enjoyed the system and the games. It showed and that's why I was drawn to try and contribute in the first place, but this kind of interjection from the aforementioned community seems inevitable for such efforts and admittedly is the reason I refrained from providing as much as I could have.

For what it's worth though, aside from the aforementioned scarcities and anomalies, both lists are missing a notable number of games which are possible to find and verify given the effort. Don't get obsessed with cataloging it all though, it's much more fun just to collect to play and notch them up as you get them

[hydr0x]

both lists are missing a notable number of games which are possible to find and verify given the effort.

with all due respect, i HIGHLY doubt that, especially the "notable number" part. Yeah, i have like a handful of titles that have a minimal chance of having seen an Australian release and i wouldn't be entirely surprised if another Spanish or Scandinavian exclusive shows up but it's not very likely. I've been collecting SNES for years, owning more than 200 boxed complete games (i can't afford more ) and several major snes collectors from all important PAL countries have contributed to the list and NONE have spotted a missing entry. If a game is missing from my list it either was somehow forgotten despite me knowing it (we all make mistakes, right) or it hasn't shown up in the last 5 years

well, as you say a "notable" number is missing it wouldn't hurt you to share 1 or 2 of them just to show us there are indeed games missing

[Will Menth]

Collection

Hi everyone, im a bit chuffed today after getting megaman x for a bargain of ?2.00 and i just wanted to know what everyones best snes bargain was.

[NeoClaret]

Mine was ISS deluxe back in mid 90's. I took my little brother to Toys R Us in Preston to buy a Buzz Light year. I had a look in the bargain bin and to my surprise it had abouy 5 ISS Deluxe games in Brand Newfor ?9.99. I couldn't believe my luck, someone must have dropped a big ballock as they were still selling the first ISS for ?44.99.


So I bought 3 sold 2 and ended up + ?10.00 on the deal aswell as a New copy of ISS Deluxe