Atari Jaguar and 3DO

[Jay]

Tomorrow I'm going to play more Jaguar. I'v finally got a scart cable for it

Mind if I ask where you got the scart lead? I need one for mine.

[Skull Commander]

Off Ebay. It was ?15 all in which is still pretty steep, but the next cheapest on there at the moment is about ?18.50 I think

[Jay]

Ah ok cheers.

[jamesy]

BTW for future reference, I'v read that Crash N Burn is region locked too.

Yea, seen that myself. It's an excuse to get an ntsc console though. Are there any other exclusives/best versions out there that are worth trying out?

Just remembering tryin Autobahn Tokio last year as it has such a great intro but the game itself is terrible. On a pal console it was unplayable.

[Skull Commander]

Having now seen the Jaguar Scart cable in action, it is an absolute must, more so than any other console. The AV cable output is piss poor with a messy picture and poor sound. The scart cable is absolutely crystal clear and makes a massive difference.


I'm also amazed at the difference between the NTSC and Pal 3DO. Samurai Shodown has MASSIVE borders round the edge on a Pal machine, but on the NTSC one you get it in it's full screen glory. I always remembered the borders but seeing them both, the Pal versions were seriously gimped.

Does anyone know why these regional differences were so pronounced?

[ETC]

Stupidest thing I ever did was sell my 3do

It was an NTSC machine with Night Trap, Flashback, Road Rash and SSF2X and I flogged it for £30 one day to buy Destruction Derby 2

[johnno15]

Stupidest thing I ever did was sell my 3do

It was an NTSC machine with Night Trap, Flashback, Road Rash and SSF2X and I flogged it for ?30 one day to buy Destruction Derby 2

I think we all have stories like that

Hind sight is a wonderfull thing

[anephric]

Crash N Burn isn't region-locked but it glitches on PAL consoles - that is the sound glitches. I think in-game it's pretty playable, but the pre-game video goes wildly out of sync.

Mega thread bumpage, but I'v just realised (to my dismay) that the pal version of "Way Of The Warrior" on the 3DO doesn't work on an NTSC machine. Bah.

If it makes you feel any better (and it should, because I wasted money on it even knowing it probably wouldn't work) Way of the Warrior NTSC crashes on PAL consoles too. Some NTSC things listed on 3DO FAQs as not working on PAL consoles do, like Twisted for example.

[Skull Commander]

I'v just been playing Primal Rage on the 3DO. Another pretty solid conversion. It's missing the victory music and pauses slightly just after you take your opponents final bit of energy, but apart from that it's pretty spot on.

PS If you still have your NTSC Way of the Warrior I'll swap you for my pal one...

[anephric]

Flogged it yaaars ago and hunted down a PAL version (which was pretty hard, actually). Soz.

[Skull Commander]

That's ok man. It was worth a shot!

[vertigo]

Star Control II

I had to get to page 4 for someone to say this? You people are a disgrace
I had a PAL Goldstar unit and it used to do my head in. The framerate was very low on a lot of games, not sure if that was the games or a glitch with the machine or that's just how it was. On the lookout for a NTSC FZ-1 when I get some spare cash though, it's a gorgeous looking machine and from what someone said above, solidly built. The towers on it remind me of the front of the N64. Can the FZ-1 output RGB? I have no S-Video. The Goldstar one could only do composite, bizarre move by an electronics manufacturer for a machine which was supposed to be the future of gaming.

[vertigo]

I remember liking Hat Trick Hero too ... Such a simplistic game, but the colourful arcade visuals and over-the-top style, put a smile on my face. It was a bit rubbish though.

The arcade version (Football Champ) is far better and one of my favourite arcade sports games. The SNES/SFC one is a bit disappointing by comparison as you can't hold down the button to buffer your next move, which is IMO an important part of the gameplay. There are a few other minor differences as well including a lot of the sound, which resulted in me just playing the arcade one instead. There's not much in it to playtest, so I'm surprised they got the control wrong.

[vertigo]

I'v got Hell but not really played it proper yet. It was hidden in the back of another game I got with the machine.

It's an interesting beast, certainly better than D, which was full of mildly-irritating instadeath and Eno's usual bizarreness. Slow pace, but indicative of the time, and also iirc full of that fabulous early 90's 3D, with people made up of ellipses tacked onto each other rather than being able to model arms properly yet

Here's the games I had for mine in 2006 on a PAL Goldstar, but don't have it any more. I'm not sure if something was wrong with it, a lot of the games were slow or jerky, and having never seen another unit running with the same games, I couldn't honestly tell you. I know that some games were and some games weren't, so maybe it was just the games.

Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Slayer - Doomalike, wasn't really a fan, controls didn't work for me.
Alone In The Dark 2 - Decent, it's a good conversion of AITD2 if a little treacle slow feeling.
Battlesport - Fun in 2 players.
Captain Quazar - Fun runabout killing in a style of Loaded or The Chaos Engine but not quite top down. Sprites a bit too big for comfort but ok mindless fun.
D - Kenji Eno's disc of madness. Survival horror about 2 hours long and with no save points.
FIFA International Soccer - Didn't play it at all, stopped playing footy games by this point as they were getting on my tits.
Gex - OK platformer, nothing too exciting.
Gridders - 3D block-based puzzler, sort of a bit Sokoban in that you control a man instead of a cursor and you're avoiding some moving blocks and going after items, worth a look if it's what you're into.
Guardian War - Very crap and stale RPG (even in context of its release date) with FMV and Bomberman lookalikes, but not even as fun as that sounds.
Hell: A Cyberpunk Thriller - Interesting story game, definitely worth your time.
Killing Time - Half-decent Doomalike but I couldn't get on with the controls on that pad.
Off-World Interceptor - Bonkers racing/shooting game with mad scenery and crap draw distance, alright for a bash.
Return Fire - Cracking vehicle-based capture the flag, best in 2 players.
Return Fire: Maps of Death - Expansion for the above.
Samurai Shodown - My copy was very jerky and the sound is horrible, no use to me as I own the MVS one but I still wouldn't recommend it if you don't.
Shock Wave - Good flying/shooting game. Possibly more fun with the (rare?) flight stick.
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels - I'm sure this made sense to someone, but it did nothing for me, I couldn't work out where the fun was even after reading the manual and a FAQ.
Star Control 2 - Epic space brilliance. If you have a 3DO and not this, you're doing it wrong.
Starblade - Boring on-rails space shooter arcade conversion with minimal 3D objects over a video backdrop (think Space Channel 5 engine style, but crap). Very meh, although some people bring a spare pair of underwear for it. Play Starfox instead.
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo - Didn't really enjoy this on that pad and at the time I owned the CPS2 so it was no use to me.
Syndicate - Cracking, another game you simply MUST PLAY, but did one very important thing wrong, PC mouse-style controls on a joypad. The SNES version's controls are superior.
The Horde - People above loved this, but it did nothing for me. Saying that, I've never been a nurture/RTS enjoyer, so make of it what you will.
The Need For Speed - A bit slow now but great in context and worth firing up just for the dude's video clips. The Hero Biscuit speech being a particular favourite.
Total Eclipse - Fun space shooter with entertaining FMV. Not as good as Starfox but you can't play the same games all the time
Wing Commander 3 - Space epic on about a billion discs, great hammy acting from Mark Hamill. Probably your thing if you're into Star Trek type stories with tension between races and all that jazz. I didn't enjoy it as much as SC2, but it's still definitely worth a crack if you've got a few weekends free.

Hope that's of use to someone.

[Baseley09]

Hat Trick Hero is for sure imo one of the best soccer alternatives of the time, in the arcade at least. One of it's sequel/spin offs Taito Super Cup Finals was amazing at the time but to play it now seems even more limiting than the games before it! Cool still, but i'd rather do HTH than any of its reincarnations these days.