Lost

[spagmasterswift]

Again if thats the case why wasnt Jack brought to Ben while Locke was there? There was plenty of time. Also the request to fetch him is after Locke is in Bens room and I might be wrong but doesnt Ben look at the wardrobe when he says it? Too much of a coincidence to not be connected to Locke in some way.

I figured he was asking for Jack to be brought as he was meant to be leaving on the Sub, Ben was planning it so that Jack was there when the Sub went BOOM!

[RustyS Badge]

possible I suppose but considering "The Man from Tallahassee" is also the title of the episode I think its got to be a bit more significant than just refering to Jack.

Notice in the latest that Lockes hand was bandaged? Reckon he gave his dad a bit of a pasting.

Seeing as you brought up the sub theres something else from that episode that no one has mentioned too, how come Locke is soaking wet when everyone bumps into him at the dock? The last time we see him before this he is in the control room of the sub and he's bone dry. Did he actually blow the sub up or move it away, then have to swim back to the dock before rigging up some C4 to blow up the doc so it looks like he blew up the sub? He definitely knew he was being manipulated so maybe he didnt actually go through with it.

[spagmasterswift]

Did he actually blow the sub up or move it away, then have to swim back to the dock before rigging up some C4 to blow up the doc so it looks like he blew up the sub? He definitely knew he was being manipulated so maybe he didnt actually go through with it.

Stop it!

[RustyS Badge]

, I'm bored

[Concept]

Also, how could the smoke monster have got past the shield and then in to the house? It doesn't look like it can be controlled and did Juliet not say something last night about them not knowing much about it?

As has been said though, do you belive anything she says? She lied throughout the entire episode, and loads before that too, as did most of the others. My theory is still that Locke's dad is the smoke monster if only for the look on his face and how in terms of cinematography it was similar to his face when he confronted the 'light' smoke monster (which may be the same entity). I think there are splinter groups in the others between those on the island and those off it - Ben's behaviour has indicated as much.

[Concept]

I thought the man from Tallahasse was meant to be Jack...



Well the force field was down when the two girls woke and we have no idea why it was left down (assuming it was done by the retreating Others) or shut down (possibly the reason for the Others to leave to escape the monster/magicbox/cerebus/blacksmoke-impersonator). I'm still not sold on the black smoke becoming people physically but maybe it allows people to see them in their mind like Jack's Dad, Ecko's brother, etc - Locke's dad could therefore not actually be there but just what he believes he is seeing and in the only way he could imagine him appearing (captured and tied up)...

Forget all that, it sounds silly.

No, it doesn't. I agree that the smoke monster doesn't transform into people physically. Jack's Dad, Ecko's Brother and Hurley's dream where Jin speaks perfect English were all the smoke monster using people's memories to transform (as was possibly the being in Desmond's flashback). It probably explains why all the flashbacks are interconnected because I feel the 'survivors' on the island are still suffering from manipulated/false memories and probably worked for the others (either Jack or Locke will probably end up being the others' leader - yes, crazy etc.).

To further the point about the smoke monster being in the room with Locke... remember what Ben said about opening a box and there being anything you thought about in your mind? He wants to take revenge on his dad, so all of a sudden he appears for him to do so.

[Concept]

Actually on that note of the black smoke transforming into memories and desires... in my opinion Desmond wanted to be absolved of responsibility of losing the woman he loved and destroying his life by becoming shipwrecked on the island, and who appears to help him do so in his 'time travel' flashback?A convenient mysterious lady who tells him it isn't his fault and he has no control over his destiny.

It's the same with Locke here... the coincidence is too coincidental.

[dc-arena]

Personally I thought the man from Tallahasse was the guy at that communications station where they got the C4 from. I presumed bossman wanted them to get him, to see if what the losties were saying was true.

Who knows eh

[spagmasterswift]

No, it doesn't. I agree that the smoke monster doesn't transform into people physically.

Cool! I knew I was right all along

The only thing that was going against the smoke monster as people from the past theory was when the horse appears and both Kate and Sawyer see it - but that was cleared up when they found the farm recently...not that a horse is going to be somebody from your past...but you get what I mean about how the show has thrown weird **** into the mix as well to keep things confusing. I like that the flashes are some way of recording things from your mind that can then be projected back in as a manipulated form. It would go nicely with the rather dated version of mind control we see the boyfriend of the French womans daughter being expossed too. And most of the experiments I can think of are about mind control (make you stay in a room punching in numbers, make Polar Bears perform a sequence for food, erm can't think of any more). Infact the show itself makes people come back and watch it everyweek - they are already in our heads ARGHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!

*jumps out of window*

[RustyS Badge]

Personally I thought the man from Tallahasse was the guy at that communications station where they got the C4 from. I presumed bossman wanted them to get him, to see if what the losties were saying was true.

Who knows eh

The episode is called "The Man from Tallahassee". It focuses on Locke and his father, the big reveal at the end is Lockes dad held captive. How on earth it could mean a one eyed Russian or a surgeon from LA I just dont know

[dc-arena]

The episode is called "The Man from Tallahassee". It focuses on Locke and his father, the big reveal at the end is Lockes dad held captive. How on earth it could mean a one eyed Russian or a surgeon from LA I just dont know

Well it is Lost :d

[HaHaUK]

Good episode, less filler and more answers, like the way it should be.

[Jebus]

Wonderful episode until the end...that last 2 minutes was SO disappointing. They actually could have left it as "she's turned good" but no, they spin out more questions.

So, SO disappointing...I really hoped it didn't go that way.

[dvdmike]

Lost = Questions. I was sure people had noticed this over the last 4 odd years

[Dezm0nd]

Wonderful episode until the end...that last 2 minutes was SO disappointing. They actually could have left it as "she's turned good" but no, they spin out more questions.

So, SO disappointing...I really hoped it didn't go that way.

And yet another person fails to see the point of the show. It doesnt surprise me in the slightest that it was a set up, but i do believe she wants off that island as jack said