Lost

[Link83]

i know dude, was gutted Mr Eko didnt make an appearance with the Jesus stick!

Mr Eko wasnt in the finale because the actor wanted a fee five times higher than was offered to him

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s10/lost/news/a221554/lost-character-refused-finale-spot.html

I also read that there was a number of conflicts with him when he was in the show, and that he asked to be written out.

[rmoxon]

Mr Eko was one of the most intresting characters but

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never that big a part of the show, he was only in it for a short amount of time, so while the writers may have tried to get him back it makes sense that he wasnt there reallly.

[dvdmike]

This is really good, and I normally avoid IGN

Warning HUGE spoilers

If I ever find another job I am buying the whole series on BRD.
I started watching season one as it prem'd in the US so I was a year ahead of most of the UK at the time!
So it has been a while now.


Also more Kimmel

[Bort]

http://i.imgur.com/wtzBE.gif

Funny Alt ending via ShawnElliott's Twitter.

[Spatial]

Brilliant

[randombs]

lololol

[samanosuke]

I found the ending to be a bit of a cop out to be honest. It was as if, after the first series had aired and everybody speculated that the island was purgatory, the writers thought "Oh ****, they've got it. We'd better deny it and we can just make a 'new' purgatory towards the end to tie things up with."

Having said this it was rather touching and fitting too, as what better way to bring an end to such a long series than by using closure as its theme.

Like Link83, though, I still feel that too much was left unanswered and it gives me the impression that the writers were making a lot of it up as they went along. Some of the (minor) things that bothered me in addition to Link83's questions were:

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- Why did the Others not wear any shoes during the first series?
- Why did the Others need the list of passengers when Jacob had already compiled a list of candidates?
- How did polar bears survive the tropical climate?
- What happened to the hallucinations the Losties were having during the first couple of seasons? Why were they having them?
- Why does the island cure some people and not others? Does it have a conscience?
- Why would Jacob tell Richard to instruct Ben to murder everyone on the island? If Richard was indeed tricked by old Smokey, surely he should have known Jacob well enough by then to know that he wouldn't ask of such a thing? And this also begs the question, why would Smokey want the Dharma Initiative dead when he supported what the Hanzo lot were investigating?
- What was the time travel all about? It seemed to me irrelevent, perhaps just to serve as a red-herring and also a way to stretch out the series.
- What was the darkness that enveloped Sayid and Claire? Why did it remove Sayid's emotions but not Claire's?
- Who is to say that the Losties that did escape the island didn't then lead fulfilling lives and not need any closure? I'm thinking Claire/Kate/Aaron in particular.
- Why were Rose and Bernard in the church when they had already moved on?
- What was all the 'being in two places at once' stuff all about? You know, by not taking the correct bearings when getting to or leaving the island?

[Wil]

Word has it that there may be 15-20mins worth of extra

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Hurley and Ben look after the island footage on the DVD sets come August. Maybe they'll put Jack in the cave with the other two bodies.

[112]

Word has it that there may be 15-20mins worth of extra

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Hurley and Ben look after the island footage on the DVD sets come August. Maybe they'll put Jack in the cave with the other two bodies.

If that is the case then

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I reckon Hurley will assume the role of a Jacob like person, whilst Ben becomes more like MiB, jus to keep the balance......... then this will spawn a new spin off show with a whole new set of perplexing mysteries for a new generation of watches....... like 10 - 15 years down the line (our time)

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[rmoxon]

I found the ending to be a bit of a cop out to be honest. It was as if, after the first series had aired and everybody speculated that the island was purgatory, the writers thought "Oh ****, they've got it. We'd better deny it and we can just make a 'new' purgatory towards the end to tie things up with."

Having said this it was rather touching and fitting too, as what better way to bring an end to such a long series than by using closure as its theme.

Like Link83, though, I still feel that too much was left unanswered and it gives me the impression that the writers were making a lot of it up as they went along. Some of the (minor) things that bothered me in addition to Link83's questions were:

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- Why did the Others not wear any shoes during the first series?
- Why did the Others need the list of passengers when Jacob had already compiled a list of candidates?
- How did polar bears survive the tropical climate?
- What happened to the hallucinations the Losties were having during the first couple of seasons? Why were they having them?
- Why does the island cure some people and not others? Does it have a conscience?
- Why would Jacob tell Richard to instruct Ben to murder everyone on the island? If Richard was indeed tricked by old Smokey, surely he should have known Jacob well enough by then to know that he wouldn't ask of such a thing? And this also begs the question, why would Smokey want the Dharma Initiative dead when he supported what the Hanzo lot were investigating?
- What was the time travel all about? It seemed to me irrelevent, perhaps just to serve as a red-herring and also a way to stretch out the series.
- What was the darkness that enveloped Sayid and Claire? Why did it remove Sayid's emotions but not Claire's?
- Who is to say that the Losties that did escape the island didn't then lead fulfilling lives and not need any closure? I'm thinking Claire/Kate/Aaron in particular.
- Why were Rose and Bernard in the church when they had already moved on?
- What was all the 'being in two places at once' stuff all about? You know, by not taking the correct bearings when getting to or leaving the island?

I dont see the end as a cop out, The actual stuff on the island was a good conclusion to the show, the purgatory stuff was simpley a way to give all the characters a satisfactory send off more than anything else.

Most of those questions have been answered on the show, and the ones that havent just require common sense really...

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The Others didnt work for jacob, they were working for the man in black posing as Jacob

Polar Bears could survive the climate

The only halucinations I remember during the first seasons were when Locke was using his trippy drugs.

Jacob never told anyone to murder anyone.

No one is to say what happened to the losties who escaped the island at all, which makes the question you asked irrelevant.

What makes you think Rose and Bernard moved on? They lived on the island for the rest of their lives, it meakes sense they could still be connected to it when they died.

Ive no idea what you mean by two places at once?

There are some mysteries that were never explained, but everything you wrote was pretty simple really, and we know what happened, or didnt need an explination as it was insignificant.

[Shez]

That actually makes a lot of sense

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re faith. Ooo just remembered something. I think the alternate universe, I think its goto be fake or the losties got plonked their or something. Firstly, cause of Jack's scar which he doesnt really remember when he had his appendix out. Also, when asked how long his son had played the piano he couldn't remember.

Nice punt from way back in March, although the scar was from the op it could have been the knife wound too. The appendix is on the same side..right?

[Link83]

Unanswered Lost questions:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936291

I thought that video was great, heres a link to a youtube version:-

Those are the sort of mysteries that still bother me. A few of the points mentioned were resolved, but not many.

I especially liked the bit about

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if the MIB could not leave the island, and the MIB was also the 'dead' Christian Shepherd, then how did he appear off the island, like when he spoke to Michael on the freighter?

I completely agree with samanosuke when he said:-

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"I found the ending to be a bit of a cop out to be honest. It was as if, after the first series had aired and everybody speculated that the island was purgatory, the writers thought "Oh ****, they've got it. We'd better deny it and we can just make a 'new' purgatory towards the end to tie things up with."

Before watching the finale I even said to my other half that I cant wait for the finale to see where/what the island really is, since the writers had already specifically said after Season 1

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that it was not purgatory, so it really annoyed me that the finale involved purgatory in any way/shape. To me the technicality that the island was 'real', and that only the flash-sideways was 'purgatory' is a cop-out. It would have made much more sense if the island was purgatory and the flash-sideways never existed

A few quotes that sort of sum it up for me:-

i think this series' ending is an ending for the hearts and not for the minds.

It turns out it's been a six year soap opera with the clever mysteries a by-product to keep you watching.

Oh and the great answer to Lost? How to save the world, the Island, kill the smoke monster and fulfil your destiny?

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Turn it off and on again

I have also been 'studying' lostpedia for the past couple of days to try and make sense of many of the mysteries that I didnt feel were adequately explained, and I read about the polar bears here:-

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Polar_bears

Apparently the Dharma initiative were

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attempting to genetically alter them to survive warmer climates, but what amazes me is that to find out this 'answer' you would have had to freeze frame on the hatch's blast door scene and study the diagram to find a small part that mentions it.

I cant see the vast majority of people freeze framing/zooming in and studying that diagram, so its hardly surprising that most people consider there to be a lot of unanswered questions if thats the sort of details the writers expected everyone to notice.

...and I am not sure if this video has already been posted, but I quite liked this 'Lost re-enacted by Cats':-

[Jaz]

My take on why Smokie killed the pilot in the first episode:

A pilot flies planes. Smokie did not want anyone to leave (even though they had no plane at that time) as he needed the candidates to kill themselves (see the submarine bit in the last season).

[Arashikage]

My take on why Smokie killed the pilot in the first episode:

A pilot flies planes. Smokie did not want anyone to leave (even though they had no plane at that time) as he needed the candidates to kill themselves (see the submarine bit in the last season).

If that was the case why didn't Smokey hunt Lapidus down as soon as he set foot on the Island in season 4?

[Matt]

Smokie could only kill people who either weren't candidates or were actually candidates but didn't meet the "worthiness" quota (eg Mr. Eko).

Which one the pilot is, is your call. I'd go for a bit more of Jacob's collateral damage.