Star Trek XII: Into Darkness

[Dogg Thang]

So what was up with the SPOILER...

I suspect it was simply the latter. I was curious to see where the redesign would go. They could have just gone for the typical

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Next Gen and later movie Klingon or they could have tried to pull it back more towards the Original Series Klingons, or somewhere in between. What they showed was more an evolution on the Next Gen Klingon but I wasn't a fan of the head design or the odd light eyes. That said, they only showed us a single Klingon so there is still room to mix up the designs in the future.

[buster_broon]

Saw it tonight in glorious IMAX, not pish odeon IMAX but proper glasgow science museum IMAX and it looked glorious and I'm going to try and see man of steel in the same cinema

I've got no problems with any of it, I enjoy trek but I'm not a Trekkie and take the new alternative time line at face value

Loved they had a tribble in it

Loved

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Spock shouted Khan rather than kirk, hated how admiral pike was killed early on, always loved the character and I thought the new Khan was awesome irrespective if he looks like Ricardo montalban or not

[Neon Ignition]

Rewatched it again today, still really enjoyed it

[Dogg Thang]

Found a wonderful way to increase appreciation for this movie - rewatch Generations.

[Mr_Skinny]

Found a wonderful way to increase appreciation for this movie - rewatch Generations.

I see your Generations, and raise you ST V: TFF! Saw this last night in 3D, and I'm still not sure if I liked it or not. The 3D was pretty meh to say the least, and I think it may have spoiled my enjoyment to some degree. For every good moment in the film, there was one that was equally as bad. I think I may have to rewatch it in 2D when it's out on Blu Ray, see if that helps!

[Dogg Thang]

I feel Star Trek V is a hell of a lot better than Generations. I wouldn't quite have believed just how bad Generations is until I rewatched it last night. There is no part of that movie that was a good idea. Data was unbearable in particular. I was actually embarrassed for the actor while watching it. At least Star Trek V has some great camaraderie between Kirk, Spock and Bones and they all play it well. Sure, it's very poor in other areas (although on repeat watchings, I actually now rate it higher than Search For Spock) but Generations is awful everywhere. It's the Freddy's Dead of Trek movies.

I will never watch that film again and I'm now banned from choosing what we watch in my house.

The 3D in Into Darkness was pretty subtle except for one but right at the start with the natives. It gains nothing from the 3D although I didn't particularly think it lost anything either.

[rmoxon]

Got round to seeing this, thought it was generally excellent, though I do have a couple of gripes with it.

One is that

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although these films are reboots, they are also actually sequels that take place in the same universe, so why do the Klingons look different? Speaking of people who seem to look completely different, what happened to Khan? Did they just throw continuity out of the window then? And secondly the role reversal with Kirk dying and Spock screaming Kahn's name wasn't as clever as the filmmakers thought it was, in fact it was a bit cheesy, and it also didn't make sense from a story standpoint for reasons I will mention below

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This film was even more about Kirk than the last one, don't get me wrong, Chris Pine is really good in these films, but why not give us more of the rest of the crew? Bones and Sulu had virtually nothing to do for the entire film, and Scotty was AWOL again for half of it. Uhura just had one big scene, and even Spock was in this one less (though the last 10 minutes of the film were pretty much his). I understand Kirk is the main character, he always has been, but its still "Star Trek" not "The Adventures of Captain Kirk". The fact that the story was so focused on Kirk meant that the final moments of the film didn't have the impact that they should have because the wrong things seems to be happening to the wrong people if the writers really wanted to move the audience.

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To have kirk discover that Spock originally died because of Kahn and have him powerless to stop it from happening again, now that would have been heart breaking.