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    Originally posted by Ginger Tosser View Post
    What's so bad about that?

    Nice street pics btw!
    ta very much, solihull at its finest!

    I think the way Nikon do it is just better, I am out and about and normally in single drive mode. I want to change to 5fps so I have to look at the lcd, press the button, change the wheel (which even though I have had almost 3 years of doing it this way I often get the wrong wheel), then once I am happy with my choice in the lcd I can press the mode button again or half press my shutter and I'm back. By this stage the thing I wanted to rapidly shoot is gone or back to doing something dull.

    Now I am well aware of grass being greener etc but having used a d200 briefly, want to change say shooting mode, just turn the dial on the top left, if you remember the way it goes then you don't even need to look away from the viewfinder. I guess I could memorise the button position on the top of my 20d but it's very close to 2 other buttons and they all feel the same so is a bit of a lottery (for me!).

    I think the Canon model being developed in the 90s and late 80s is a bit (god help me for saying this) old school! The way say a top end Nikon operates is much more photographer friendly. I have missed proably getting on for 100s of shots by failing to change mode quickly enough either AF, Drive, Metering.

    In September I get a 4k golden shower for teaching and am seriously thinking of getting a d200.

    On a smaller note, I have always hated the shutter release of the 20d too. I'm not sure if they changed it for the d30 and I believe the 5d is better but it clicks - I mean the button clicks under your finger almost to replicate a shutter going - there is a stop. My old EOS100 never did this and it felt worlds better, shoot, slight raise of finger press again and so on feels so much nicer with a soft release like that.

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      The 5D shutter button is smooth as my 50E was (probably like your 100).

      I rarely change from burst to single shot. With my old 50E it was a dial on top so it was much easier, so i can see why its a pain in the arse. As for the iso speed it is displayed in the viewfinder(and LCD) on the 5d so that isn't as bad.

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        The grass is always greener.

        I have never shot with a D200 so can't really compare it to my 30D, but it is a nice camera. For me, Canon has the better ergonomics at least with the 30D vs 200D argument, as the Canon fits my hand like a glove, but the Nikon seems bulky. Again, that's my opinion and many probably won't agree. I find the 30D (and the 5D) an exercise in simplicity due to the scroll wheel on the back.

        I went with Canon for the lens line up anyway, but I was considering Nikon at the beginning.

        Yes, nice shots bangaoi!
        Last edited by Richard.John; 20-02-2007, 14:22.

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          Chocolate anyone?


          Young lady getting a mouth full

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            I don't like chocolate but I always enjoy seeing a lady getting a mouthful.

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              Canon US Press Statement
              EOS-1D Mark III Digital SLR, the world's fastest digital SLR camera. At 10 frames per second, the 10.1 megapixel EOS-1D Mark III digital SLR can fire huge motor-driven bursts of 110 Large JPEGs or 30 RAW files because it employs the new Dual DIGIC III image processor engine

              New EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM Lens
              New 580 II Speedlite

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                Just been checking that out, seen a few pics now and it's a bleeding monster. I think your neck would ache after carrying that thing round for a while.

                10 frames per second for 110 jpeg images is insane! How could the AIservo focusing possibly keep up if the subject was fast moving?

                When will we get the 40D announcement? I'd like to expect it soon now but they may well wait till autumn now I guess, not that I could ever afford it anyway
                Last edited by Alastair; 22-02-2007, 09:08.

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                  I'd say 5/30 and the expensive 1D replacements are due in September. Though I doubt all 3 would be replaced. More likely the 1Ds Mark II (3 years in sep) and 30D (18 months).

                  The AF on the EOS 1 is super fast, pisses all over my 5D for fast moving subjects.

                  Good thing about this announcement is the current 1D Mark IIn might be even cheaper!!

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                    Live view as well! I assume that it will filter down in time to other models, so all those mums will eventually be able to use their DSLRs as an expensive P&S.
                    Last edited by Richard.John; 22-02-2007, 14:35.

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                      I can't see a use for live view on an SLR, what's the point? Seriously, I can't work it out.

                      Does IS work well at longer exposures? People with shaky hands would probably appreciate it at anything under 1/60 (poor light but not wanting flash for example) I'd say. I'm too poor to have ever tried an IS lens though so wouldn't know. I do know all about lens shake on tele's though

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                        Actually it doesn't have IS I just misread the II. Must get my eyes checked. Some have suggested that macro or tripod work is a good use for live view.

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                          That's what I'd not considered and I do it often. When you've got the little cap on the view finder when doing a night shot on the tripod live view would be very useful. Will it show AF points on screen then? That'd be clever!

                          And don't worry about your eyes, I misread it in GT's post after you commented too and I'm sitting here with my glasses on!

                          Originally posted by Ginger Tosser View Post
                          Mind you my 300mm IS will be (when I can fund it).
                          Can you give me a shout when ever you're considering selling the 200mm L to fund the 300 please, would love first refusal if you've not already promised it to someone else.

                          Is it that NEC show this w/e? Think my Dad's going on Sunday.

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                            Originally posted by Alastair View Post
                            I can't see a use for live view on an SLR, what's the point? Seriously, I can't work it out.
                            I guess it might be handy when you're using the camera at obscures heights and angles when you wouldn't easily be able to use the viewfinder, or trying to be a little candid ( nudge nudge ).

                            But yeah, I'd largely agree it's not a necessity.

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                              Originally posted by MartyG View Post
                              I guess it might be handy when you're using the camera at obscures heights and angles when you wouldn't easily be able to use the viewfinder, or trying to be a little candid ( nudge nudge ).

                              But yeah, I'd largely agree it's not a necessity.
                              Perv

                              But yeah, another good use for it, it'll annoy me hugely though when I start seeing SLR users in a few years doing that damn hold the camera in front of you thing at head height and look at the screen instead of the view finder.

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                                Live view, when used with the remote sender is useful for sports (cameras stuck behind the goal etc) and nature shots. Heard some mention it is useful for studio work, but most studio work with DSLRs would probably use the 16mp 1Ds MkII. For a macro setup i'd find it quite handy, that said i could quite happily do without it.

                                Alastair, i'll be keeping the 200mm! I'd still need it!

                                Focus 2007 is this Sunday (to Wednesday) - Sadly no Canon again this year, but the EOS experience stand may have the new toys!
                                Last edited by Ginger Tosser; 22-02-2007, 16:00.

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