America vs the World VI: Pope Idol

[Neon Ignition]

It would be fascinating to see that attempted as the party must be planning something for post-Trump but Vance is a dead man walking and doesn't realise it

[briareos_kerensky]

Waiting for Trump to be "put out to pasture" following the midterms so Vance and Musk are running the show, and two more unfettered years to complete Project 2025 before attempting to subvert the election and stay in power.

I don't know about Musk, he's worth what he's worth thanks to Tesla stocks and if those continue to plummet he might distance himself from the government as much as possible.

[Neon Ignition]

Trump makes rare admission of Musk’s conflicts of interest after Pentagon visit | Trump administration | The Guardian

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/musks-dad-elons-not-racisthe-was-friends-with-black-servants/

Well... I mean... man...

[Neon Ignition]

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ll2gygfj7v2k

Does not remotely understand the situation the country is now in

[egparadigm]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/musks-...lack-servants/
Well... I mean... man...

🤦🏻♂️

[Asura]

Trump clearly thinks he can do anything at all now without ever facing a single consequence,

I think, if this really is the start of the downfall of western civilization, part of me wants to carve some sort of monument to tell future generations that whatever society replaces ours, start it on day-1 with the ethos that the rule of law applies both to rich and poor alike, and anyone who challenges that is not to be trusted.

[Dogg Thang]

I think, if this really is the start of the downfall of western civilization, part of me wants to carve some sort of monument to tell future generations that whatever society replaces ours, start it on day-1 with the ethos that the rule of law applies both to rich and poor alike, and anyone who challenges that is not to be trusted.

I feel like the US was founded on that idea. I mean... with obvious exceptions at the time. But the general principal of a lot of what it was built on seems to have been to protect against this very eventuality. And yet here we are. I guess eventually, all civilisations fall. All democracies crumble.

[Neon Ignition]

Their sole hope is a Conservatives moment.

We had that ridiculous landslide win for Johnson and no-one seemed to care that he was rule breaking and terrible at the job. The party slid quickly into its current awful form and it took the pandemic for things to change, for the scandals to be of a nature that people felt that they had been affected by them. With him gone you're left with lackeys and as no-one is fit for the job you end up with Truss etc and a party implosion.

That's part of what needs to happen in the US. Hardline Republican voters need to feel the consequences of their choices, there's no replacement for Trump so they need to suffer under him to turn that tide.

The big other issue though is how phenomenally useless the Democrats are. There's just zero fight in them at all. Trump has taken things in the US so much further than the UK thankfully got. There needs to be a genuine intent for a future Democrat leadership to introduce immoveable real safeguards to Government and Presidents roles to prevent what's happening now from happening again. There's no real room for America's future when the systems don't work

[Brad]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

I used to work on the secure comms systems for government. The layers of security in those devices is insane. And here we have these bellends using Signal instead.

The USA needs to be removed from Five Eyes; it's no longer safe to share intel with them.

[briareos_kerensky]

It's not a leak of classified information, Trump declassified everything in his mind when he assigned a talkshow host as Defence Secretary.

[Neon Ignition]

Outrage after White House accidentally texts journalist war plans: ‘Huge screw-up’ | Trump administration | The Guardian
It should, but won't because people are morons, raise flags with voters that Secretary of Defence Pete Hegseth said the story was the media peddling hoaxes - as the White House confirmed the story was true. The open default position to lie to peoples faces.


Tesla’s EU sales almost halve this year; Hyundai announces $21bn US investment to avoid tariffs – business live
Tesla's market share in the EU, UK and EFTA is now down to 1.8% following a 42% fall in sales year on year. Focusing on the UK alone though, sales rose last month by 20% - presumably amongst Reform voters

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.reuters.com/world/china-willing-build-stable-fruitful-relationship-with-portugal-foreign-minister-2025-03-25/

Exactly why Trump is so dumb

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/canada-buying-billboards-in-us-red-states-to-drum-up-opposition-to-trumps-tariffs/

[Asura]

The big other issue though is how phenomenally useless the Democrats are. There's just zero fight in them at all.

This is something I don't understand.

Is it possible they're keeping quiet because... Like... Sometimes in American politics, because it's a 2-party system, they see it like a game of ping pong, and the parties sometimes will basically give the political equivalent of a reacharound to each other. Put bluntly, they don't want to properly criticise the other party because they want to treat their actions as "establishing precedent" for things they want to do when they're in power.

[Neon Ignition]

It would make sense under normal conditions, in these times though it seems extra dumb of them because they're effectively aiding an abetting Trump to ensure they'll never be able to do anything in power ever again.