Royal Mail Strike - Quick Question?

[stainboy]

No, you need to see it from the paying customer's perspective. They pay for stamps and expect their mail to be delivered. It's as simple as that. If the Royal Mail refuse to deliver the mail, then they have failed their customers.

I still am a paying customer so that's my perspective. I have the common sense to not blame the individuals that are striking, I can pretty much assume that most of them would rather not do it. It's the union and RM you should be angry at.

What I don't understand is why RM and the union can't club together and fight Postcomm? It's their rules that sound unfair and impossible to work by, where's the sense in expecting RM to compete with other services by not letting them do anything they'd need to compete?

[cutmymilk]

Worst that can happen for me is a few negs on ebay, as I sent 6 items yesterday and they may take 2 weeks as I understand it. I've also got a few items I'm waiting for myself, but won't be too upset if they take a while!

[Jebus]

Jesus ****, a whole week.

The only day you won't get post is Tuesday.

Each individual is only striking for one day.

I posted this PAGES back.

It's EXACTLY the same as it's been on every strike (apart from the recent 2 x 48 hour ones). Departmental strikes on a daily basis, but DIFFERENT departments.

So many people guessing, judging based on absolutely zero knowledge at the moment and it's getting very, very frustrating. I think I may steer clear of this thread for a little bit. Post's like Kotaku's have made me so angry, I've had to stop myself posting. Not singling you out by the way but your post in particular did make me very frustrated and angry.

[Yoshimax]

I posted this PAGES back.

I thought they only announced it today

PLANNED 24-HOUR STRIKES
15 October from 1800BST: Mail sorting offices and airports
16 October from 0300BST: Deliveries and collection hubs
17 October from 1200BST: Royal Mail drivers
18 October from 1200BST: Manual data entry centres
18 October from 1400BST: Heathrow world distribution centre


Source: CWU

BUT........

The Royal Mail is heading to the High Court for an injunction to halt next week's official postal workers' strike.

Royal Mail says an irregularity in the way the strike notice was issued makes the action illegal.
But the Communication Workers Union (CWU) says it will defend the action as it has complied fully with the law.

[MikeF]

so we will still get post next week then apart from Tuesday by the looks of things, thats not too bad then

[MattyD]

Almost everything the media are reporting is either late or incorrect in some way. The last strike, the four day one, was announced more than three weeks before it took place but NOBODY seemed to know it was happening until the day before

[JB@XL]

Perhaps both sides should be using their time and effort to get a deal sorted out for the sake of the postal workers and the public instead of trying to score points over each other.



Originally Posted by BBC
The Royal Mail is heading to the High Court for an injunction to halt next week's official postal workers' strike.

Royal Mail says an irregularity in the way the strike notice was issued makes the action illegal.
But the Communication Workers Union (CWU) says it will defend the action as it has complied fully with the law.

[Paulos G]

We should get the Army out in those auld fire engines to deliver the mail.

Nice one VP! Made me laff!

Hope things work out ok for postie members here (and beyond).

[Jebus]

I thought they only announced it today

No. They announced everything officially before the last run of strikes was even finished.

Royal Mail management are even more stupid than I thought if they really are trying to halt it on those grounds, the CWU will just re-announce different dates if they have to.

Nice kick in the teeth today for the posties. RM decided that rather than stop 2 days pay from each week (as they should have since it was 2 days pay last week, 2 this week) that they would just take 4 days from one weeks pay, meaning most posties out there have between £40 and £70 to live on this week.

Just to be clear, I'm not complaining about losing pay, of course that is the correct thing to do, rather the way they've done it. They are also witholding our pay slips for some reason, don't know anyone who's got one yet.

Nothing anyone can do about it, it's legal, but it's a real kick in the teeth and extremely underhanded.

What's worse? The union knew they were doing it, but didn't warn a single member it was going to happen.

What should have happened is that 2 days from this weeks pay, then 2 days from next week pay would be taken away, not 4 days in one week, since we didn't strike for 4 days in any week.

By the way, if people are confused, we're still weekly paid in Royal Mail.

[MattyD]

We were told about this before the Strike at our office, by both our union rep and our managers. So much for 'work time learning' eh?

[Jebus]

Matty, nobody in our area knew a damn thing about it. One of the guys mentioned how if he HAD known he wouldn't have risked it since his mortgage payment comes out this week, with no prior warning about it, he now can't afford it.

BBC News say the strikes are off...not heard anything from anywhere else.

The High Court has blocked a 48-hour official postal strike planned to start on Monday.

The Royal Mail was granted an injunction to halt next week's official strike by up to 130,000 Communication Workers' Union members.

Royal Mail says an irregularity in the way the strike notice was issued makes the action illegal.

The union insisted the strike was legitimate because it fully complied with the law.

Well it seems a little odd, I mean the CWU will just change the dates. It's become a war and both of them have forgotten us poor ***** are in the middle of it.

I have a really bad feeling though that this will just encourage unofficial industrial action...

[stainboy]

What's the general feeling in the offices at the moment? I can imagine most are sick of striking now and think it's not going to work. You get the feeling that the CWU aren't really working for their members.

[JB@XL]

What's the general feeling in the offices at the moment? I can imagine most are sick of striking now and think it's not going to work. You get the feeling that the CWU aren't really working for their members.

I would imagine most are sick of the RM trying to force the changes through by bullying and intimidation.

[Greg Moss]

I would imagine most are sick of the RM trying to force the changes through by bullying and intimidation.

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This!

I don't want to be on strike, I want (need) a full wage more than anything, but I need to know my job is secure and I'll still have it this time next year, I want to know my pension is safe and I'll get the full amount without having to pay more into it to get what I should have in the first place. If RM had there way, all the money from customers would go straight into there pockets and all the mail would somehow magically get delivered.

[Jebus]

The feeling is :

We're all depressed, fed up, skint, tired...

We don't want to strike but we have to try and make sure our jobs are secure.

Most people are looking in the job pages now as well.