Osama Bin Laden killed

[Dogg Thang]

Powerful stuff, isn't it? I'm glad people took time to read it given its length.

I read it. It's long. And incredibly insightful. Obvious in so many ways - that's what gives the piece its power. It's stuff we all know, but many of us don't want to think about.

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

I thought about it what he was saying almost all the time when he cropped up in the news if I'm honest. The west created this monster & yeah I guess its a case of what comes around goes around.

Maybe Bin Laden isnt dead. I'm not saying he wasnt captured tho, but maybe he was captured alive & they're trying to get as much info out of him as they can? Would be hadny for them, as they could retireve important info while at the same time letting Al Quaeda belive he's dead which could make sure they dont scatter further? Then any info they could retrieve could catch those who are sitting tight.

On another note, Pakistan still seem to be bitching about the whole thing, saying they should have been informed & allowed to carry out the raid themselves.
However, they knew about & informed the US of the compound back in 2009, so why didnt the Pakistani gov take action back then?

[Spatial]

In short. There's no such thing as good guys or bad guys. Everyone has blood on their hands.

Pretty much and that's why there'll never be world peace, there's too much history.

What narks me though is the American's whole `War on Terror` bull****. The US harboured dissidents who had fled from Ireland and did very little to try and round them up or stop them sending funds back. American citizens openly funded the IRA, holding public rallies in bars and pubs where people would happily give money towards the campaign of blowing people up.

Obviously some of it was done by dissidents who had fled to the country, but they roped in normal Americans too, people who believed that there was some sort of romantic notion behind it all, an oppressed citizenship that were living in poverty under an evil regime. That or people who were too thick to equate what was happening with British soldiers or citizens (or whoever was unlucky enough to be in the blast radius at the time). Then again when your donating to something called "Bomb a Brit" you're under no illusions what it's all about.

Bottom line for me is that the Americans have a very messed up sense of who is right or wrong in the world and for them to sit there and pass judgement on who does or doesn't constitute a terrorist threat is pretty rich given their history. It baffles me that they can't (or don't want to) understand why the world hates them.

Thing is, as Ady's links prove, the UK's no better.

(I'm probably going to have a red flag against me now by the government for posting that aren't I?)

[Dogg Thang]

You may well have a red flag but you're absolutely right. And as an Irish person, the lack of understanding from Americans on the whole IRA thing was baffling. Some honestly thought I was like some sort of oppressed slave, beaten twice daily by British soldiers while they steal my potatoes and rape my red-haired women. While, in reality, they're busy funding terrorists. Like, actual terrorists.

How this happens though is so obvious - it's the idea of good guy vs bad guy. It's a naive dangerous concept. Just sell someone, anyone, as the bad guy and you get to cheer when you kill them (and take out half a million people along the way).

[egparadigm]

I think the difficulty in handling such a situation is that they had little time to get the story out and accounts were conflicting.

[MartyG]

I don't the American misunderstanding terrorism is a unilateral thing, afterall, the vast majority of the UK celebrates religious led terrorism every November 5th

[Dogg Thang]

I think the difficulty in handling such a situation is that they had little time to get the story out and accounts were conflicting.

Thing is, some of them are parents. You think they'd know from telling their kids that the best way to get your stories straight is to tell the truth.

Man, these people must have been absolutely rubbish at getting away with keying cars and buying beer when they were twelve.

[Neon Ignition]

After the conspiracy nuts fun years ago with Diana, ie Die In A Nasty Accident

An anagram from Russell Howards Good News

OSAMA BIN LADEN

LOB DA MAN IN SEA

[EDDIE M0NS00N]

An anagram from Russell Howards Good News

OSAMA BIN LADEN

LOB DA MAN IN SEA

Ha ha thats brilliant!!

[dataDave]

Thing is, some of them are parents. You think they'd know from telling their kids that the best way to get your stories straight is to tell the truth.

Just like with all the Father Christmas and Jesus Christ stories?

[Howiee]

Just like with all the Father Christmas and Jesus Christ stories?

You do realise that there are Christians who are part of the NTSC community, dataDave?

[Neon Ignition]

Point still stands

[Dogg Thang]

There was a point?

[Neon Ignition]

Father Christmas and Jesus, like the post they're referring to, aren't truth they're individual percieved opinion/belief

[Dogg Thang]

Still not getting any relevant point here. Just seems to be some random tangent.