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    Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...08cd8f34645f1f
    And No.10 won't investigate the accusations of blackmailing conducted by itself shocker
    They've referred it to their stooge at the head of the Met, who will probably investigate it as diligently as she did the parties.

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      So, now some time has passed:

      04 Jan - 218,724
      05 Jan - 194,747
      News breaks that from 11 Jan positive PCR tests will no longer be required
      06 Jan - 179,756
      07 Jan - 178,250
      08 Jan - 146,390
      09 Jan - 141,472
      10 Jan - 142,224
      Postive PCR test no longer required
      11 Jan - 120,821
      12 Jan - 129,587
      13 Jan - 109,133
      14 Jan - 99,652
      15 Jan - 81,713
      16 Jan - 75,041

      17 Jan - 84,429
      18 Jan - 94,432
      19 Jan - 108,069


      So every time the Tories make a move to undermine Test and Trace the figures fall off by up to as much as 50%. It's beyond disgusting that the media has utterly failed to hold them remotely to account for it and the other Governments have lap dogged up to the 'follow the science but actually just remove effort too' approach the Tories are leading on. Then you get to when it bottoms out after PCR is gutted and the trend seems to be giving early signs of heading up which would suggest new cases are actually still on the rise, they just are being ignored because every tom, dick and harry is being encouraged not to confirm their illness via an officially recorded method.

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        The ONS figures will give a true indication due to how they're done, but they give a retrospective view - it maybe those figures are not massively out we won't truly know until the ONS ones are available. The fall off doesn't look totally unreasonable, were they suddenly 50%+ different that would paint a different picture.
        Last edited by MartyG; 20-01-2022, 16:50.

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          Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
          https://www.theguardian.com/politics...08df4c489a675c
          William Wragg, the Conservative Chair of the Commons Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee has accused the Chief Whips of blackmail
          This seems weird, though. I mean isn't this the whole point of what the whips do?

          I mean this is literally the whole premise of the show The Thick of It, you watch one of these people do their thing.

          "If you don't vote the way we want, maybe it takes longer for Nissan to get the permit to open that factory in your area."

          I mean the whole idea you're voting for an MP who represents your area is made utter bollocks by the concept of the whip - so much so that when they have an "open vote", the government actually makes a song and dance that this one isn't a corrupt waste of time!

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            It's the role of the whips to try and get their MPs to tow the party line, but there are still lines they shouldn't be crossing, such as threatening to withhold public funds.

            The accusations are hearsay, they're gunning for Johnson and the whips well know the limits, but Johnson has dug a hole for himself. Given his propensity for twisting things, deflecting things and often outright prevarication, he's left himself with a situation where I'm far more likely to believe the other bloke.
            Last edited by MartyG; 20-01-2022, 21:14.

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              Hundreds of NHS Consultants have shares in private clinics

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                Imagine the Government and Police resources we'll save now that we live in an era where investigations aren't started until evidence already exists

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                  Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                  https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b501a85-pinned
                  Imagine the Government and Police resources we'll save now that we live in an era where investigations aren't started until evidence already exists
                  Maybe it's just time to fix the situation outside of the traditional power structures or established processes of government.

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                    Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...b501a85-pinned
                    Imagine the Government and Police resources we'll save now that we live in an era where investigations aren't started until evidence already exists
                    All those cop shows will have to change with the times. The next series of line of duty will be a bunch of cops sitting drinking coffee for hours until a evidence comes to them.

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                      Nice try Dimbleby but nope, try again

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                        **** off. Right now I am able to not pay the fee. That needs to not change.

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                          **** off.

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                            Council tax is high enough as it is

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                              Has test and trace been sabotaged? You decide

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                                Originally posted by gunrock View Post
                                You know what I find fascinating about politicians, especially Conservatives? When you listen to them speak, Nadine Dorries springs to mind on the BBC, but it could be David Davis on Brexit, Rees-Mogg on real life, Boris Johnson on almost anything, is how they speak with utter confidence and complete certainty on matters which, when scrutinised to a mere scratch away from their opinion on it, they reveal that they know absolutely nothing about it. They have no knowledge, no prior experience, no transferable skills, nothing that would enable them to understand or envision the effects of what they want to happen, only the absolute certainty that their opinion is the only way....

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