UK IX: This Economy Will Self-Destruct In...

[Neon Ignition]

I imagine there were quite a few people lining up for Elizabeth I as well. This I guess makes the current one.... *new thread title!*



Kwasi Kwarteng planning to scrap caps on bankers’ bonuses | Kwasi Kwarteng | The Guardian
The Tories set out urgent plans to ease the cost of living crisis for... bankers bonuses

[wakka]

Great thread title.

[Golgo]

Kwasi Kwarteng planning to scrap caps on bankers’ bonuses | Kwasi Kwarteng | The Guardian
The Tories set out urgent plans to ease the cost of living crisis for... bankers bonuses

Millions of hard-pressed UK households will breath a sigh of relief at this. How did bankers ever get by on having annual bonuses capped to only 2x their salaries? Nice to see the Tories dealing with the issues that matter.

[Lebowski]

Police don't understand their own laws it appears that holding up a piece of papers saying not my king is perfectly fine as is heckling a pedophile following a coffin and no arrests or charges should of been made.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/queen-arrest-police-protest-king-b2167199.html

[fallenangle]

Individual police officers often don't know the law and that has probably been true forever. They might have changed the law on this now but for instance if you are on public land and taking photographs of whatever you couldn't be made to stop unless you were photographing things like Ministry Of Defence Property, you're causing a public nuisance or blocking the 'queen's highway (including pavements).

No police officer had the right to confiscate a camera and removing film (in those days) could be treated as an act of criminal damage.

I'd suspect now with the anti-terrorism laws the police have practically carte blanche in these respects and all they have to do is cite those laws as a justification for their actions.

But I would have thought in those recent cases of provocative signs and people shouting at mourners was a pretty clear public order offence in both cases.

The protesting was not unlawful but if it was likely to cause a breach of the peace it could be seen as an offence requiring police action.

The police also have to abide by a set of policing rules and regulations like those specified here. Note the information about the application of those powers ie. how and under what circumstances they're used also should be appropriate and proportional.

That might be put under the umbrella term of using 'common sense'. That is what is missing in the way those protests were dealt with.

[Cassius_Smoke]

Police arrest a guy who had the audacity to rollerblade in the similar area to the Kings car.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-62939586

[Brad]

I don't know why the location has anything to do with it. The guy was on roller blades, of course he should be arrested! Fruit boot.

[Asura]

Seems Mogg is going forward with the Imperial measures plan.

This is why I'm done with politics. I lack the ability to prevent something comparably small like this, so any control over the bigger things is clearly an illusion.

[Cassius_Smoke]

The damage this will cause will be immeasurable.

[fishbowlhead]

Seems Mogg is going forward with the Imperial measures plan.

This is why I'm done with politics. I lack the ability to prevent something comparably small like this, so any control over the bigger things is clearly an illusion.

They can F off, backwards morons.

[Cassius_Smoke]

'Hi, I'm a British company and I need to buy quantities of 10lbs bags of flour.'

'Hi, I'm a French supplier and I only operate in KG. I can sell you 5kg bags.'

'Im sorry, I can't sell 11lbs bags of flour.'

'Then I'm afraid our business ends here.'

[Anpanman]

Complete bollocks, metric is easy to learn. I hated the inches rubbish at school (yes, I am old enough to remember). When we changed to metric I wondered to myself why we weren't doing this already.

Although my love of the NFL is all encompassing when they talk about the weight of players in pounds and then go on about temperatures in F I think come on it's the 21st century.

[Hirst]

I still use some imperial measurements, but it's insane to think that we should try to push a system that is only officially used by three countries - the US, Myanmar and Liberia. I also strongly suspect it's largely nominal in the latter two and probably just means their products in shops have an imperial sticker over the metric weight. It's a dying system and increasingly irrelevant in a global society.

Like most Mogg proposals, they're deliberately ridiculous and only exist to draw attention to him and away from things like the idea of uncapping banker bonuses.

[fallenangle]

For anything scientific and requires precision the metric system is far superior but I have no objection to the casual day to today use of pounds/oz, feet/yards and even the arcane acre. The idea that the Gen Zs, Millennials, Gen Alphas/Post-Millennials don't or can't understand the imperial system is specious.

You get into a vehicle and you use litres for petrol/diesel and car manufacturers provide km/litre performance figures. But the speedo and all road signs are in miles and mph with only the broadcast TV media (BBC) seeming to be obsessed with using kilometres and kmph instead of miles and mph.

Whilst we're at it using bloody stupid grams for cooking measurements, particularly baking, is daft 454gms instead of a pound when no mechanical kitchen scales can measure accurately to within 25gms ie. 1oz.

You buy a TV or monitor and the screen size is still both formally, in instruction manuals, and casually referred to in inches not cms. Its power use rating, like all electrical equipment, is provided in Watts not Joules/second too.

You go to a horse race track and the racing distances are all in furlongs and the height of the horse at the shoulder is measured in hands. Martime use of knots and fathoms or feet is still normal as well.

Casual use mix of both systems is commonplace and long may that continue and if shoppers really want cost/lb as well as cost/kg then why force shopkeepers just to use the latter.

However if this is some wholesale backwards step it is bloody ridiculous. Like most children of the '60s and '70s we were taught both systems but the lunacy of the more obscure imperial weights/measures was already recognised even then. Nobody was taught or ever used chains, firkins, barrels, grains, nails, gills, pecks, bushels etc etc.

[Neon Ignition]

Mogg is actually interested in introducing the Empirial System