UK Energy Costs

[huxley]

Games consoles are an easy target as they do draw a lot of electricity when in use. Back in the day are used to be CRT TVs that got blamed for energy consumption excess. Other than computers I can’t think of anything else in the house that might draw excess energy that isn’t classed as a luxury. I don’t think it’s fair to include white goods and Ovens as everyone needs those to a certain extent.

[Asura]

Games consoles are an easy target as they do draw a lot of electricity when in use. Back in the day are used to be CRT TVs that got blamed for energy consumption excess. Other than computers I can’t think of anything else in the house that might draw excess energy that isn’t classed as a luxury. I don’t think it’s fair to include white goods and Ovens as everyone needs those to a certain extent.

Thing is, the change from CRT TVs and monitors to LCD-style screens enormously reduces power consumption for the average home, to the degree that absolutely crushes console power consumption. A CRT TV uses more than 3x more power than a comparable LED TV.

This is the reason businesses switched to them so quickly; within a couple of years they pay for themselves, along with all the other advantages.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Huxley has clearly drank the kool-aid on this one.

Hate to see it.

[huxley]

Oops double post

[huxley]

Huxley has clearly drank the kool-aid on this one.

Hate to see it.

Well that’s a bit rude I was trying to look at it subjectively from all sides, I think we all have an important part to play in reducing wasted energy consumption. I’m not being a killjoy and saying we shouldn’t have games consoles and computers running when we want. My gaming PC is mining bitcoin when I’m not using it.

[Nu-Eclipse]

But year lets blame games, don’t worry about your oven thats on a 30amp supply at all, no no thats fine, its the games fault.

Can't wait for the likes of British Gas to come back and tell us that we're at fault for heating our homes and food.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Well that’s a bit rude I was trying to look at it subjectively from all sides, I think we all have an important part to play in reducing wasted energy consumption. I’m not being a killjoy and saying we shouldn’t have games consoles and computers running when we want. My gaming PC is mining bitcoin when I’m not using it.

Sorry, but it isn't subjective at all when the energy companies make massive profits year on year on year (not to mention subsidies given to them by the Government) and when it's been clearly shown that games consoles are nowhere near the energy consumption problem that you and BG are trying to make it out to be. It just isn't.

Like I said, come the next round of energy price increases the narrative will be framed as people being wrong in terms of heating their homes and their food.

Forgive me if I don't choose to do what you're doing and play into it. It is pure bollocks.

[huxley]

It’s all good, debate is healthy.
Should of pointed out I have solar and a battery pack. I’m not wantonly burning energy to mine crypto.

All these news stories are a pre-empt to try and justify the price going up. Taking precautions to limit paying for wasted energy is still the best way to reduce bills at the moment.

[Nu-Eclipse]

It’s all good, debate is healthy.

Erm...I wasn't apologising for saying that you were drinking the kool-aid.

I stand by that for you and anybody trying to justify the energy companies telling clear lies about energy consumption to try and justify their greed.

Taking precautions to limit paying for wasted energy is still the best way to reduce bills at the moment.

Or... here's a shocking thought...maybe instead of putting out lies to frame the narrative, maybe the greedy energy companies should do the morally right thing and reduce the cap and the costs??

[fishbowlhead]

This is once again completely on the government for lack of infrastructure planning. We should of had multiple new nuclear reactors built decades ago, instead no, my mate in Russia can get hold of cheap gas, scrap those plans and send the cash our way, which is exactly what’s happened.

With proper planning between nuclear & renewables theres zero reason to import any energy at all.

[Asura]

This is once again completely on the government for lack of infrastructure planning. We should of had multiple new nuclear reactors built decades ago, instead no, my mate in Russia can get hold of cheap gas, scrap those plans and send the cash our way, which is exactly what’s happened.

That and the lack of regulation.

It should be illegal for the energy companies to raise the price of energy in a year where they forecast a profit of over a modest margin. It would be fine if those profits went into energy infrastructure but they're clearly going to end up in the pockets of shareholders.

[Neon Ignition]

Have to imagine if this continues that the Tories are going to have to look at a windfall tax or locking in the price cap as continuous rises whilst companies report record profits is going to be an increasingly toxic look for them especially as we approach 2023 and election campaigning will be increasingly on backbencher minds. If the remaining big firms can report the profits they are then they sure as hell can weather a cap freeze.

[Asura]

continuous rises whilst companies report record profits

CON+10

[fishbowlhead]

Thats the crux or it, not just profitable, record profits.

[Neon Ignition]

I'd kind of figured the council tax rebate thing would be applied to the tax rate, thereby reducing your bill by around £10 per month but lo and behold £150 sitting in my account today