The Depp-Heard trial is to be televised
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The Depp-Heard trial is to be televised -
The Depp vs Heard case has begun marking one of the most high profile celebrity court cases in many years. Heard lawyers opened with accusations involving Depp sexually assaulting Heard with a wine bottle and him being obsessed with Elon Musk.
Depp's sister has described their upbringing under an abusive mother describing how Depp responded under abuse and how Heard would treat him
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A friend of Depp has spoken at the trial stating Heard showed no sign of marks or bruising around the time of the widely shared photo's she released a few years back. The photo's have long been questioned regarding whether they were faked by Heard.
Depp's graphic texts about Heard were shared in the courtroom, his friend brushed them off saying the wording has been used by Depp before unrelated to Heard.Comment
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Some of the Day 3 highlights from the Depp v Heard case which today harder into the anti-Heard and co-abuse territoryComment
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Week 2 of the Depp/Heard case has begun with Depp's Security Guard sharing his testimony along with images of injuries Depp is said to have suffered by Heard's hands. The court also heard about the well publicised Australia trip which Heard says was when Depp held her hostage and abused her for three days. Depp's physician says that during this time the house was covered in glass and blood and he had to take Depp to hospital for treatment of his severed finger. Depp's private nurse said it was her belief that Heard was the instigator.
Depp will be in the stand himself today and tomorrow for testimony and cross examinationComment
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So where we at with this? I haven't followed it much.
I just know that at one point it was said he was abusing her, then at some point there was the suggestion that she was actually abusing him?
Are we at a stage where it's an unhealthy relationship between two damaged people? Or does it look like they're going to emerge from this with one of them at fault?Comment
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Is the Depp / Heard thing in the public interest?Comment
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The Depp/Heard case is 100% in the publci interest, mostly because wrongly it could have big ramifications for the Me Too movement where they really went to bat for Heard at one stage. Her losing or coming out as having deceived people will impact the future impact the movement has. It shouldn't but that's how much leverage its opposition need to undermine a legitimate cause.
The framework at the moment is that Depp lost his prior case because he struck Heard, therefore he hit his wife ergo the label of wife beater was true. Here though the case is broader and wrapped around Heard positioning herself as a prominent Me Too figure as a survivor of domestic abuse at Depp's hands which he disagrees with. Career wise he took all the hits as a result and from the pre-existing evidence and the case so far it's clear violence existed on both sides of the toxic relationship.
However, Depp's side seems to be arguing that any injuries from his side were as self-defence from aggression on her side as she abused him as he was under the effects of a drug/alchohol addiction and had childhood abuse issues. There's an unusually high amount of evidence submitted as both seemed to have seen this coming years ago, Depp also has a lot of witnesses in support whereas Heard has prior accusations against her from before Depp.
Whilst it will be bad for both Depp has already taken many hits so this is more about the legitimacy of Heards account which frankly isn't looking good so far and hasn't for a very long time, high stakes too as Warner Bros already paid millions to ditch Depp and hitched its wagon to Heard facing the potential of marketing Aquaman II next year with this hanging around their neck. Not unusual for them I guess given the Fantastic Beasts franchise track record.
Depending on how it all goes it's a high profile and very public case from a Me Too stand point, potentially the most high profile case seen from a domestic abuse angle where it comes to abuse on male victims, career making/destroying and involves numerous major public figures and corporations putting their name on the line. That's aside from those into the celeb drama side of things or wanting to see Depp fail or Heard fail to escape the image she's surrounded herself in etc.Comment
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Sounds like there both as bad as each other.Comment
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A lot will come down on where the truth lies (as much as we get to seeing that, that is). Them being as bad as each other is definitely a very likely outcome from it. The question is whether there's any truth to it being defensive. If someone was chopping my finger off I'd smack them too regardless of gender
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I only ask as I've not followed it. I had no idea about what he did / what she said etc. so was genuinely interested.Comment
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In some ways, I suspect not.Originally posted by teddymeow View Post
But there's one way, I guess, in that a high profile case of domestic abuse of a man by a woman will help to normalise that this happens, and that society needs to look at it more closely
Kinda related to that staged video that used to float around of a man hitting a woman in the street and people would immediately intervene, whereas a woman hitting a man using the same script was kinda just met with people laughing at him. If both Depp and Heard are "just as bad as each other", she shouldn't be pulling in crowds for Aquaman movies if no-one wants to employ Depp.Comment
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It also brings up the age old argument that men somehow can't be physically abused by women because 'I'd just fight back'. Whatever Depp has done, possibly in self defence, the media and public have been very quick to spin him as the bad guy, simply because he's male.Comment
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That's the reason I think this is as big as it is. One of the most common things coming up in this case and past stories is how Depp was considered the abuser and yet time and time again the recount of events includes Depp often attempting to leave the situation to avoid it escalating and Heard would physically and verbally assault him to stop him from doing so. Doesn't read right compared to the initial reports that came out against him and that's before factoring in the ramifications surrounding Heard publicly podiuming herself as a prominent Me Too spokespersonComment
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I agree but I guess with a slightly different interpretation. It is well known that men can be and often are victims of domestic abuse. It is alarmingly common. Nevertheless men are often the perpetrators too and I feel like the attention this particular case is given out of all the public domestic abuse cases (of which there are far too many) is exactly as you say - because the victim might be the man or at least it could be a messy situation where both are at fault. But I feel the interest is often a desire to deflect from the majority of cases where that is not the case. I am not convinced this should be getting the attention it is.Last edited by Dogg Thang; 19-04-2022, 11:44.Comment
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