There's a social shift happening too, in that older millennials and GenX 40+ aren't 'Shifting to the right' as we get older like the previous generation did. And we are beginning to out number Boomers now. The next election will be the first were we out number them (if we all go and vote). Its and interesting time.
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Originally posted by fishbowlhead View PostWhatever happens voting wise, they will just form a coalition to stay in power, the system simply doesn’t work.
The Lib Dems will never work with the Tories again and I doubt the Tories will work with The DUP again after splashing them with cash and still voting against them.
I think Labour are too proud for a coalition.
It's all interesting stuff, I just wish it was in another country!
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostYep, I think the Tories have played every coalition card they have and every other party now feels like shaking hands with them is akin to when David Palmer shook hands with that woman in 24
Where did it get Nick Clegg, he was the Tory fall guy and was blamed for all its problems and it saw him loosing his constituency seat to Labour and being forced to resign, The libdems then voted in some religious nut as their leader and become pretty much irreverent, Everyone likes to blame the Tory's for Brexit But it was a Libdem policy and a Promise to Clegg to have the referendum on Europe. Cameron thought it was a formality and would be defeated, that cost him his leadership he properly underestimated the apathy and stupidity of the Country as a whole.
I find it bizarre that their was this split in the Tory's on remain and leave and now its like their never was a divided at all and as a Tory your now not aloud to have a stance on Europe that isn't "Brexit is the one and only true path for the UK".
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Originally posted by Lebowski View PostWhere did it get Nick Clegg,
Politicians always lie. That's nothing new and anyone who says otherwise is naive. But it's rare a politician signs a document saying they're going to do something, then accepts power with the knowledge they're not going to do that explicit thing. The week the coalition came about I had a Tory boss who joked in the office about how everyone apparently wants a free ride, and it was ridiculous to think the government would ever cut off student loans, while belonging to a generation who went to uni on grant money and never had to have one. Honestly I nearly took a swing.
The country voted for a hung parliament or minority government with the Tories, and that's what we should've got. Yes, it would've been bad, but it's what the electorate chose. Brexit is a living nightmare but we didn't just not do it because it was demonstrably bad; we went ahead with it.
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I tried to vote in the locals this morning (polling station is across the road, so had time). I used an accepted form of ID according to the government website, but was turned away – even though the old biddies had a specimen image of the ID in front of them in their official documentation. So I’ll have to go out again after work once I’ve dug my passport out of whatever drawer it’s in at home, and hope there’s not a huge queue as usual. Bastards. Don’t usually like carrying my passport around on me for obvious reasons.
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Originally posted by Protocol Penguin View PostI tried to vote in the locals this morning (polling station is across the road, so had time). I used an accepted form of ID according to the government website, but was turned away – even though the old biddies had a specimen image of the ID in front of them in their official documentation. So I’ll have to go out again after work once I’ve dug my passport out of whatever drawer it’s in at home, and hope there’s not a huge queue as usual. Bastards. Don’t usually like carrying my passport around on me for obvious reasons.
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Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View PostYeah I'd have told them to **** off and gone in anyway. Some power hungry jobsworth isn't going to stop my right to vote.
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Originally posted by Lebowski View PostI'd of kicked up a massive fuss that's massively worrying its not as if these people are actually qualified to spot fake id's or as the case with the above even the right forms of ID.
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Home early for some WFH, passport found in my sock drawer and was accepted, thankfully no queues as it's not past 5:30pm. Voted against the Tories, obviously.
Tactical voting website, if this helps anyone: https://stopthetories.vote/Last edited by Protocol Penguin; 04-05-2023, 14:43.
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