UK X: Who Wants To Live Forever

[Asura]

Yep, it's more important that people accept that they don't need to be poor and to stop propping up the corrupt party enabling an economic system that is so broken that anyone ever believing the myth that Tories are good with money and the economy gets slapped upside the head

That's totally fair; but I got the impression was that under the present system/situation, they're saying that the average British person is poorer, and people need to "accept" that - insofar as, if you're finding yourself shorter than usual at the end of each month, if you're surprised at the price of food - you're not doing something wrong. Things are worse.

I don't think people should accept it in terms of not wanting things to be better, not blaming the Tories, coming to terms with Brexit etc. - but we're poorer because "we" voted in the Tories and voted for Brexit, and "we" need to accept that.

tl;dr people who voted for Brexit and the Tories "****ed around", and if they're expressing any confusion over why they're poorer then they need to be told that they've "found out"

[Cassius_Smoke]

Its not like other countries are sipping Mities either. But we do have the added disadvantage of having a ****e government and the lead weight of Brexit round our necks.

[Asura]

Its not like other countries are sipping Mities either. But we do have the added disadvantage of having a ****e government and the lead weight of Brexit round our necks.

That's always the difficult thing to parse, but that makes it a constant. World events are always going to fluctuate and they're not always under our control. Even if we flip the Brexit and Tory results, we still would've had COVID, America would still be doing its thing, fears would still be riding high over Taiwan and Russia would've still went to war with Ukraine. In any decade, things happen you can't control. You have to fixate on the stuff you can.

[Neon Ignition]

Yep, it makes sense their focus on more on pushing people to spend within their means. The messaging isn't ideal is all, especially when there might be factors like the economy, COVID, Brexit, Cost of Living, inflation, energy etc but there's also a growing mountain of excess record profit making. The bank even looking in the publics direction is asking for blowback.

[Mayhem]

https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...16m-households
UK suppliers have pocketed and are retaining £7bn of credit that belongs with households - it's for all that investment, innit?

Which is why on the most part, we paid quarterly and what the actual bill was. Sure that meant four different amounts depending on the time of year but we weren't overpaying. Nicely timed, when the water and council tax monthly payments stopped for the financial year (as they weren't over 12 months) compensated for higher utility costs.

[Lebowski]

That's always the difficult thing to parse, but that makes it a constant. World events are always going to fluctuate and they're not always under our control. Even if we flip the Brexit and Tory results, we still would've had COVID, America would still be doing its thing, fears would still be riding high over Taiwan and Russia would've still went to war with Ukraine. In any decade, things happen you can't control. You have to fixate on the stuff you can.

World events fluctuate yes but their are Things we can control with them, after the sub prime mortgage market crashed triggering a global rescission our goverment decided that quantitative easing, baling out banks, and austerity where the way to go and all three failed spectacularly.

We then decided (well a quarter of the UK decided) that leaving the EU and turning our back on our biggest trading partner was a good idea off an advisory vote.

As for global pandemics, we can protect our citizens by not using COVID as an excuse to make yourself a ton of cash by setting up a sham company to buy containers fulls of cheap defective ppe from china and awarding the contracts to your virtually untraceable shell company.

[QualityChimp]

We then decided (well a quarter of the UK decided) that leaving the EU and turning our back on our biggest trading partner was a good idea off an advisory vote.

This

As for global pandemics, we can protect our citizens by not using COVID as an excuse to make yourself a ton of cash by setting up a sham company to buy containers fulls of cheap defective ppe from china and awarding the contracts to your virtually untraceable shell company.

Especially this.

Next general election is going to be fascinating (and inevitably depressing), but I can imagine a large number of people just switching off from politics.
I'm hoping it'll be the type who vote like football supporters, voting for the ones their dad and dad's dad.
Or the people who aren't massively invested in politics, but like the funny man with the ruffled hair as he seems good fun.

[gunrock]

I mean, he's not wrong. We are, and we need to accept that.

Approximately 50% of the electorate has a particular responsibility. PONY UP ****ERS

Sure, but it's this nonsense that we should lie down and accept it, especially people that didn't vote for these arseholes and their asinine Brexit, austerity, etc.

Next, they'll be trotting out the old bourgeoisie-to-proletariat line "You've never had it so good!!".

[Asura]

Sure, but it's this nonsense that we should lie down and accept it, especially people that didn't vote for these arseholes and their asinine Brexit, austerity, etc.

I suspect I took a different message from this than most. I didn't take "accept" as being okay with us being poorer; just that I accept that we are poorer due to all those reasons.

[Neon Ignition]

Health department officials ‘raised concerns’ about Steve Barclay’s behaviour | Steve Barclay | The Guardian
After Raab, accusations shift to Barclay

[Asura]

Health department officials ‘raised concerns’ about Steve Barclay’s behaviour | Steve Barclay | The Guardian
After Raab, accusations shift to Barclay

Y'see, this the problem:

Two other Whitehall sources alleged that he had regularly “blasted” staff in full view of others in the office.

Some people just need a punch in the face. Like as a corrective measure. Sounds like Barclay is one of them.

[Cassius_Smoke]

How many Tory MPs are now highlighted as bully's?

'If you want to know what a man is like, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals'

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/sainsbury-s-sees-profits-fall-after-holding-back-price-hikes-for-shoppers/ar-AA1apnJi

Sainsbury's says a drop in earnings at the company is because they're too good customers and position their products too low in price to help the common folk

Not at all that they're too expensive and shoppers are starting to shop elsewhere out of necessity. No. Couldn't be that at all.

[fishbowlhead]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...rs/ar-AA1apnJi
Sainsbury's says a drop in earnings at the company is because they're too good customers and position their products too low in price to help the common folk

Not at all that they're too expensive and shoppers are starting to shop elsewhere out of necessity. No. Couldn't be that at all.

I thought it was 200k a year min earnings to shop at sainsburys these days, food wise their always the most expensive. Their clothes are pretty good to be fair.

[Mayhem]

I thought it was 200k a year min earnings to shop at sainsburys these days, food wise their always the most expensive. Their clothes are pretty good to be fair.

You've never been to Waitrose then. Although the last "essentials" shopping basket list I saw from March, Sainsburys was cheaper than Tesco.