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Short-termism - you're going to get fewer votes when your constituency is underwater after the Thames rises above the barriers due to rising ocean levels caused by environmental change.Comment
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Bit optimistic to think they’ll even be democracy by then!Originally posted by MartyG View PostLast edited by Protocol Penguin; 21-07-2023, 10:42.Comment
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Uxbridge are so butt hurt about the ULEZ that they voted another Tory in. You have to laugh.
I love the idea that the lesson we should all take from this is not to bother with green policies.Comment
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With ULEZ, what I don’t understand is why petrol cars didn’t go on a price banding system based on the stated CO2 emissions on the logbook. The Euro rating is a blunt instrument that doesn’t really show the pollution, just that said pollution complies to a certain level of standards. Put simply, you could quite easily have a car on Euro 2 with CO2 rated at 120g/km, a car on Euro 6 pushing 450g/km. The data is there so why not use it?
In cases where a car predates the CO2 system or doesn’t have to comply to it (supercars are generally exempt), you’d have to come up with something else like banding it by engine size which is probably not going to be completely fair but is still less unfair of the current system where Auntie Joan has to pay £12.50/day to drive her 1997 Micra 1.0 to the freezer shop whilst some guy in a brand-new Aston Martin DB11 5.2 Twin Turbo (or me in my “historic tax” 1982 Mitsubishi Galant) gets it for nothing.
I don’t agree with the ULEZ system at all and think it should just be done by the natural wastage of people replacing their cars with newer ones. But I think if you’re going to have it, the proposed system sucks and is not fair. Not to mention that the flat fee for all non-exempt cars is something that could be ruinous to an ordinary person, but completely trivial to the rich. Therefore I can see why a large portion of the electorate are flatly rejecting it.Comment
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With ULEZ, it will be bedlam when the start pursuing clean energy cars expecting them to pay per day to drive them. It's the inevitable outcome for ULEZ as if it is successful in forcing people to transition to low pollution cars London's leaders will go into meltdown about the lost money revenue from the charge. They'll bend themselves in knots to try and justify the various charges at that point
Labours Emily Thornberry says that she thinks the Khan should rethink how the ULEZ scheme expansion is deployed and confirms that multiple members of the party will be pushing him to back down from his current approachComment
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Starmar turns on ULEZ now also. Suck it up KhanComment
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As we get closer to the election Starmer would throttle his own granny if he thought it would play well with middle England.Comment
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Is this the same ULEZ that Boris wanted to put in?Comment
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No issue with Uxbridge voting how they did I always vote on local issues.
The ULEZ though is a joke, you can have an original Mini or a supertanker American car from the 70's and pay less than a modern car if I understand the rULEZ correctly.
The rich won't give a toss about driving their car about, it should be simple just ban everything but they won't.
Of course then you have the fleet operators who have to comply but that doesn't make sense, if you are operating a national fleet the last place you would put EV's and the like is London.Comment
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It will be the most interesting Labour related thing in the coming months, the Tories clearly sense an attack line for London Borough seats and Khan is so easy to set up now as a 'Look we listen' sacrificial lamb. He blatantly tried to bulldozer it through to avoid campaigning for re-election next year with it under his name, now it's the noose solely around his political neckComment
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It's baffling the ULEZ was brought in Under Boris Johnson when he was mayor of London, Kahn threatens to extend it so they vote for the party that brought it in in the first place? A protest vote would be Libdem or Green (if it was an actual protest vote). Uxbridge really are a bunch of idiots if they think that voting for a Tory will see this scheme squashed as they want it just as much as Kahn doseOriginally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
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Gove announces his new housing plan with a Tory MP immediately objecting to part of it
Sunak says the Tories remain fixed on banning petrol and diesel new car sales in 2030 despite infrastructure concerns
Rishi Sunak urged to go for spring election by senior Conservatives | Conservatives | The Guardian
Some within the party are pushing for an early May 2024 General Election as they believe that other times of the year later on will prove harder for the Tories to fend off more severe scale lossesComment
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If Londoners cut all the cameras down at the same time that’s the ULEZ zone over with. Then just keep cutting them down in unison if they go up again.Comment
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I've not seen anyone do a speed camera Barbacue for a while now, it used to be a fairly common site burnt out camera on the side of the road. you would get people putting, tires over speed cameras posts and setting them on fire, the heat would cook the camera inside its metal box, completely destroying the whole unit with very little effort.Originally posted by fishbowlhead View PostComment
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