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    #76
    It was frustrating because the Government loved using the Ukraine and the Pandemic as convenient scapegoats as to why the economy was tanking and there was no food in the shops and everyone started striking.

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      #77
      2023 - A Decade On, The US Trade Deal Vanishes and Support For the EU Overtakes Those Against It
      The Tories remain dominated by those either dead set against any connection to the EU or those too fearful of raising pro-EU relations, leaving the nation in a situation where it lacks positive trade deals with any major countries. If in power, do you believe Labour could get away with a closer relationship with the EU or is it still a poison pill to the public?

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        #78
        Whilst I think rejoining the EU is off the cards, it feels that we've entered a safe enough space now for the majority of the public to openly accept a much more alligned trade and movement deal with the EU if the benefits were clearly communicated. If immigration figures were brought down at the same time (surely not that hard given where the Tories have left them) it would be hard for hardline Brexiteers to get a vocal soapbox up and running

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          #79
          Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
          Whilst I think rejoining the EU is off the cards, it feels that we've entered a safe enough space now for the majority of the public to openly accept a much more alligned trade and movement deal with the EU if the benefits were clearly communicated. If immigration figures were brought down at the same time (surely not that hard given where the Tories have left them) it would be hard for hardline Brexiteers to get a vocal soapbox up and running
          Free moment of people was one of the red-lines for a lot of the brexit supporters, they where under the impression that leaving Europe would stop the flow of people into the UK. i think if you showed people the following bullet points it would soften their stance on free movement.

          • Pre-brexit - majority of immigration to the UK from outside Europe. 200,00 Per Year
          • post-brexit - majority of immigration to the UK from outside Europe, 600,000 Per Year

          conclusion

          • We've not cut immigration
          • We've Lost out massively with trade.

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            #80
            That just proves you need even more Brexit. Imagine how bad those figures would be if you were still in the EU? It would be a million immigrants per day, with even darker skin colour. And all that money flowing into the NHS now would stop all over again.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
              That just proves you need even more Brexit. Imagine how bad those figures would be if you were still in the EU? It would be a million immigrants per day, with even darker skin colour. And all that money flowing into the NHS now would stop all over again.
              Thats the issue though saying all immigration is bad is the trap this goverment has fallen into Two Thirds of that 600,000 number are skilled people that we need for various industry's including nursing staff for the NHS. The goverment has had to increase immigration to fill gaps in the UK the visa schemes for haulage and Nursing staff have been quite well covered.

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