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    Originally posted by bwi View Post
    So how come another defender we've never heard of, but comes from liverpool gets drafted in. Ryan Shawcross at Stoke has played well all season, why not give him a chance or probably others that i've missed out on. Hodgson is pissing me off already
    Shawcross would fit well in with the long ball style of this current england setup too.

    Then again, in world/euro tournament football maybe his old fashioned style of tackling/defending would land him in trouble before too long.

    I do like milner, but he isnt a winger, never in a million years....he works well in midfield(Especially when at villa), a bit like a toned down parker.

    Originally posted by rmoxon View Post
    they gave Gerrard the man of the match but I can't remember him making one good pass in the game.
    Gerrard won motm because he was like a tank in the middle, and made countless challenges breaking up belguims tricky midfield.....maybe him and parker together was too much, i much prefer gerrard further forward, but then, we didnt get that far forward for the most part.
    Last edited by PaTaito; 03-06-2012, 16:09.

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      Originally posted by glazza View Post
      Cahill is out now with a broken jaw Martin Kelly drafted in over Ferdinand who is out simply beacause of John Terry racial abuseing his brother but thats another discussion all together, players dropping like flies in an already very poor England squad couldnt see us getting out of the group before the Euros even with a full squad but certainly cant see that happening now looks like another miserable failed embarassing tournament for us English to bare once again me thinks.
      I'd have to agree. England will have overachieved considerably if they get out of their group at Euro 2012.

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        Can't believe he hasn't taken Micah Richards. He's been superb for City every time I've seen him.

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          You know England could well win the tournament the same way Chelsea won the CL with defending deep and using long ball counter tactics.

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            Originally posted by Kit View Post
            Can't believe he hasn't taken Micah Richards. He's been superb for City every time I've seen him.
            I agree. I do like Kelly, promising player but Richards is class now.

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              Engpool!

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                I agree about richards, he makes johnson look utterly pointless.

                How these players are chosen defies belief sometimes.....and kelly over rio?

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                  As a Liverpool fan, I don't think I can remember the last time Kelly play his original position as centre back for us. So yeah, a little strange. Great as a RB though.

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                    I think the team are more upbeat than you lot. Cmon, get behind them, its a hard enough task as it is.*

                    *i hear walcott is a lurker here and parker is a long term member, paid subs too.

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                      As a biased Spurs fan I would have chosen Kyle Walker for RB. He's a better defender than Johnson and can go forward with pace too.

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                        Kyle Walker is injured.

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                          Memory failure

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                            Johnson goes forward too, he has good games, remember when the nation wrote campbell off and even way back, john barnes.

                            the good thing is, our opener is a match - france, how exciting.

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                              Originally posted by ShadowDancer View Post
                              Johnson goes forward too, he has good games, remember when the nation wrote campbell off and even way back, john barnes.

                              the good thing is, our opener is a match - france, how exciting.
                              He has ok games, nothing against the lad, but he is way overrated.

                              Richards can double up as a bloody good defender too, as well as being way more threatening going forward.

                              It makes no sense to me.

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                                Originally posted by PaTaito View Post
                                Richards can double up as a bloody good defender too, as well as being way more threatening going forward.
                                Sorry, that's laughable.

                                Please let's not try to re-write history with Micah Richards. He's great going forward, but he is NOTHING like a remotely good defender. Dreadful positioning.

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