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    Andorra have lost about 48, drawn 2 and won 1 in their history. They've lost every single game in the group. If they don't lose to Russia it'll be a bigger miracle than every single religion being proved correct all on the same day!

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      We should be saying 'Lets see the england team rely on themselves for once'. If not that at least start to admit we've not been good enough under Mclaren whether we qualify or not.

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        Gerrad.. see that guy standing in front of you with **** loads of space wearing a white shirt? PASS TO HIM!

        Russia 1-0 up

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          Bye Bye Euro 08

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            lescott, bridge and lampard off at halftime, beckham, bent and defoe on... if your gonna lose it might as well be by six for all in matters!

            Russia take the lead

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              russia scored, good. Regardless of the result tonight, to go through in that way would be an embarassment

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                There we go, Russia have taken the lead! England simply do not deserve to go through, they haven't been good enough. Croatia look like scoring each time they come forward! This is like watching a comedy

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                  On the plus side, we won't have to look at England flags on car doors everywhere next summer.

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                    Originally posted by MarkyB View Post
                    lescott, bridge and lampard off at halftime, beckham, bent and defoe on... if your gonna lose it might as well be by six for all in matters!

                    Russia take the lead
                    Would be nice to see Mclaren do what he should've done several games ago and take Gerrard off but that'll never happen

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                      Originally posted by Yoraths mullet View Post
                      shows what I know
                      Same here

                      Originally posted by Kongster View Post
                      Surely England won't screw up

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                        On the bright side, see ya McClaren! Even if we somehow got this back to 2-2 and scraped through, surely McClaren's position is still in question.

                        I've seen a lot of TV and paper talk that he's improved as an international manager over the second half of the qualifying but I don't see it. We used an untested formation against Croatia before and lost, and now we've done the same again (why only one up front???). We lost against Russia because he didn't change players / formation to react to the changes Russia made, and it looks like he hasn't made any changes so far in this match.

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                          2038: Scott Carson swings his boot at a clearance and delivers the ball straight back to the opposition. Someone put him out of his misery.
                          BBC Sport seem to rate Carson highly

                          Edit: Am I the only one now thinking that the best result will actually be a loss? England team in general needs a good kick up the ass and a thrashing tonight will hopefully encourage one.
                          Last edited by Malavon; 21-11-2007, 19:44.

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                            carson drops the ball again, take him off, he'll concede another before this game is over!

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                              ok i agree, get gerrard off, that free kick was shockingly bad!

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                                Rofl.

                                Mclaren has got to come up with something close to divine intervention at half time. Which wont happen because he's too lilly livered.

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