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    Ok ive edited my post as i see i made a mistake , is that better? England struggled to get out of the group , but now youve qualified and won the bloody thing, i thought a good few pages back , talk of winning was being dispelled , just shows how delusional and arrogant you England fans really are.

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      And how judgemental you are? I don't expect them to win but it won't ever stop me WANTING them to win.

      I'll approach every tournament/qualifying campaign with renewed optimism in the same way that I approach each new football season. I've been football mad for as long as I can remember, the elation of winning and the crushing disappointment of defeat have been a part of my life for as long as I can remember. That's never going to change and I never want it to.

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        Im non judgemental Number 45 , im just stating the facts, if you play like you did in the world cup you'd be lucky to qualify for Brazil no matter who you get drawn in your group.

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          Originally posted by Brats View Post
          We got past the Group stages. As Number 45 said, the only team that got past the knock out stages was Spain.
          Bugger. I am a mong.

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            Originally posted by MisterBubbles View Post
            just shows how delusional and arrogant you England fans really are.
            That's hardly stating facts. Just looks like being a confrontational prick to me.

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              Originally posted by MisterBubbles View Post
              Ok ive edited my post as i see i made a mistake , is that better? England struggled to get out of the group , but now youve qualified and won the bloody thing, i thought a good few pages back , talk of winning was being dispelled , just shows how delusional and arrogant you England fans really are.
              LOL, I suggest you start reading this thread at about page 10 Mr B. Myself along with quite a few on here gave England no chance. I actually didn't think we'd get out of the group, much to the dismay of the overly optomistic few.

              So if thats delusional and arrogant being English, i'd hate to think what you'd make of a Brazilian Fan

              Are they now arrogant and delusional as well?

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                Originally posted by MisterBubbles View Post
                Im non judgemental Number 45 , im just stating the facts, if you play like you did in the world cup you'd be lucky to qualify for Brazil no matter who you get drawn in your group.
                That England were **** is an undeniable statement of fact. But you went on to say "how delusional and arrogant you England fans really are"... and that's an unfair characterisation that you've levelled at the England fans on here, most of whom are more than aware of our crapness.

                For my part, as I clarified, I'm always the optimist. I'll support my teams through thick and thin (I do however reserve the right to criticise them endlessly...). I don't expect us to win and I certainly don't feel we're entitled to win (You can blame the tabloid press for that), which is what you implied (Whether intentionally or not).

                Anyhoo, I didn't mean to have this degenerate into an argument. I posted the smilie under the flag so that you would all know that it was tongue in cheek.

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                  Yes the tabloid mentality is was gets on my tit$ , but some fans on here then buy into the hype,and im not trying to be a confrontial prick im just stating my views, if you dont like them well tough titty , your a grown up , you can take it on the chin, lets just see how you 's get on in the euro qualifiers before blowing your trumpets as usual. And im not arguing im have a debate , if you cant have even a heated debate then grow up, as said were all adults, i dont hate England or English fans, most of my friends are English , but lets not get carried away. And it is arrogant to assume you can win the next world cup when you haven't even qualified.
                  Last edited by MisterBubbles; 13-07-2010, 14:21.

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                    I don't remember seeing anyone state they think england will win in 2014.

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                      Yeah, we all know it's the Euros in 2 years time that England are going to win!
                      Last edited by abigsmurf; 13-07-2010, 15:51.

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                        Originally posted by abigsmurf View Post
                        Yeah, we all known it's the Euros in 2 years time that England are going to win!
                        nice try bigsmurf, i aint biting

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                          Originally posted by Number45 View Post


                          what do the 10 blossom symbols stand for - anything football related? and where is the star of 1966?

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                            The blossom symbols are the Tudor Rose, a combination of the red and white roses of the opposing forces in the War of the Roses in 1485. It is the heraldic emblem of England.

                            Why 10? Probably because they fit in a nice pattern.

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                              It's one rose for each division that the FA represented.

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                                BBC, Sport, BBC Sport, bbc.co.uk, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service


                                There you go, it's official. Worst. England performance. Ever.

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