Devil May Cry 3

[Mardigan8]

Can hear all sorts of **** rattling around inside it and the rumble function doesn't work on my other one only one side of the pad shakes, hahaha, its mental. Will give it a wee look tonight and see what the trouble is. Luckily most of the stuff I am trying dont require the gun switching to be too intense so aint a big problem. Need at least one new one though.

Venom, do you get another costume for completing DMD? The ones for Hard mode and getting 100+ kills in the credits are pretty good. The old topless arrogant one is my personal favourite though

[venom743]

Can hear all sorts of **** rattling around inside it and the rumble function doesn't work on my other one only one side of the pad shakes, hahaha, its mental. Will give it a wee look tonight and see what the trouble is. Luckily most of the stuff I am trying dont require the gun switching to be too intense so aint a big problem. Need at least one new one though.

Venom, do you get another costume for completing DMD? The ones for Hard mode and getting 100+ kills in the credits are pretty good. The old topless arrogant one is my personal favourite though

Yeah there was rattling inside my pad too. Turned out to be some broken plastic from the buttons. Nothing to worry about though.

You get Super Dante who has infinite Devil Trigger but visually he looks the same as normal Dante.

[venom743]

Here's a vid of Leviathan's Heart on DMD. Check out my Enemy Step meth with A&R's Aerial Cross!

http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EUIFUX8UHQCG1EFAVJCCWB7KE

[Mardigan8]

Yeah there was rattling inside my pad too. Turned out to be some broken plastic from the buttons. Nothing to worry about though.

You get Super Dante who has infinite Devil Trigger but visually he looks the same as normal Dante.

Ah, thats right, cheers. Heard there is a cheat to unlock this mode but aint tried it. DMD is do-able but is gonna consume a fair bit of time... better get back into it then

[venom743]

Ah, thats right, cheers. Heard there is a cheat to unlock this mode but aint tried it. DMD is do-able but is gonna consume a fair bit of time... better get back into it then

I recommend using Trickster to get through the early parts of DMD stages with RG or Swordmaster for the bosses. Abuse your DT like no tomorrow as you want to get rid of as many enemies as possible before they DT!!!

[venom743]

Last vid for today! Finally getting around to owning bosses on DMD now!
This one's against Doppelganger using Swordmaster, Rebellion and E&I. The vid illustrates the meth that I was talking about earlier on in the thread and is a lot better than the usual strategy. Check it out!

http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0TOHCIKSW25KP1CRCJNJ4WMD1M

[Castor Krieg]

I've done all missions on DMD, not using Royal Guard btw. I found Dance Macabre to be extremely useful in both killing monsters, and boosting your ranking to SS. This is the part where DMC3 fails to GoW - in God of War even if your attack the enemy, it doesn't cancel the enemy's attack, so you have to be on your guard. The moment you start Dance Macabre and start mashing circle button - you are safe.

[venom743]

I've done all missions on DMD, not using Royal Guard btw. I found Dance Macabre to be extremely useful in both killing monsters, and boosting your ranking to SS. This is the part where DMC3 fails to GoW - in God of War even if your attack the enemy, it doesn't cancel the enemy's attack, so you have to be on your guard. The moment you start Dance Macabre and start mashing circle button - you are safe.

Are you serious?
Are we playing the same game?
DMC3 on DMD is NOT　easy. Enemies DT where button mashing is a no-no.
Try doing Dance Macabre during a DTed enemy's mid move and see for yourself! You'll get hit! Furthermore, you HAVE TO be on your guard in DMC3 on DMD AT ALL TIMES cos enemies don't hold back and one hit can take up to half your life away.

[Castor Krieg]

Well, Dance Macabre has the ability to switch targets mid-way, basically you hack every1 who's close, right? I agree, there are some monsters who will always get on your back and try to get a swing. At that moment I get the hell out of there. But most of the time I really managed to pull the whole move.

The cancel thing is especially visible with the red-demon guys right at the beginning - jumps backwards, then rushes at you. If you manage to hit him, his attack will be canceled. That's the thing I'm talking about.

I would love to learn RG - unfortunately the timing just kills me. I managed to get the timing with some enemies, especially red-type demons mentioned above. Still, I have problems with most basic grunts, I just can't get a hold on the moment they slash you. So I just ended using Swordmaster all the way.

[venom743]

Well, Dance Macabre has the ability to switch targets mid-way, basically you hack every1 who's close, right? I agree, there are some monsters who will always get on your back and try to get a swing. At that moment I get the hell out of there. But most of the time I really managed to pull the whole move.

The cancel thing is especially visible with the red-demon guys right at the beginning - jumps backwards, then rushes at you. If you manage to hit him, his attack will be canceled. That's the thing I'm talking about.

That's not what I meant. There are no moves in DMC3 which are completely safe on DMD cos enemies go berserk during DT. YOU CAN'T abuse the same move over and over again without getting punished. Try doing Dance Macabre to a DTed Hell Sloth to see what I mean.

[venom743]

Well, Dance Macabre has the ability to switch targets mid-way, basically you hack every1 who's close, right? I agree, there are some monsters who will always get on your back and try to get a swing. At that moment I get the hell out of there. But most of the time I really managed to pull the whole move.

The cancel thing is especially visible with the red-demon guys right at the beginning - jumps backwards, then rushes at you. If you manage to hit him, his attack will be canceled. That's the thing I'm talking about.

I would love to learn RG - unfortunately the timing just kills me. I managed to get the timing with some enemies, especially red-type demons mentioned above. Still, I have problems with most basic grunts, I just can't get a hold on the moment they slash you. So I just ended using Swordmaster all the way.

Royal Guard is best used in boss fights.

[Mardigan8]

Well, Dance Macabre has the ability to switch targets mid-way, basically you hack every1 who's close, right? I agree, there are some monsters who will always get on your back and try to get a swing. At that moment I get the hell out of there. But most of the time I really managed to pull the whole move.

The cancel thing is especially visible with the red-demon guys right at the beginning - jumps backwards, then rushes at you. If you manage to hit him, his attack will be canceled. That's the thing I'm talking about.

I would love to learn RG - unfortunately the timing just kills me. I managed to get the timing with some enemies, especially red-type demons mentioned above. Still, I have problems with most basic grunts, I just can't get a hold on the moment they slash you. So I just ended using Swordmaster all the way.

You finished DMD mode without even grasping Royal Guard??? OR being able to simply time your moves?? I am playing GOW at the moment and am finding it very simplistic in terms of the combat when compared to DMC. Sometimes in GOW you can be tearing the most basic enemy apart with a strong combo yet it does not prevent it from hitting you. It forces you to play on the counter attack which really narrows the variety in the combat.

DMC lets you come at it from whatever angle you want, whether it is counter attacking or full on combo madness. THAT is where GOW doesn't compare to DMC!!

Am currently playing through DMD without using Holy Water and all the other ****e and it is extremely hard. Every move and enemy attack I have learned in the 50+ hours I have played it is put to the test.

GOW doesn't let you break enemy attacks because its system is much more rigid than DMC. Be interested to know your game time mate, see how it compares to the hours been poured in by the rest of us.

Anyone who beats DMD without using cheats or lots of items gets mass kudos in my book, its a true hardcore challenge.

[venom743]

That's the thing. If you're playing on DMD, you should be good enough to play with some style ie not repeating the same move/s repeatedly. And if you want a good ranking taking damage or using items is out of the question.
I can't see how anyone can get through DMD using just one style. Their skills must be godly if so. Trickster and Royal Guard are needed to complete DMD with good rankings.

[Mardigan8]

Totally, beating some of the bosses in DMD using only Swordmaster must be scary!! In DMC every encounter plays out differently and for me Dance Macabre is one of the most weightless moves in the game... sure it looks good but the value it gives you considering how exposed you are left is riduculous.

Staying on the ground too long in DMD is a danger in itself

Your Swordmaster skills must be a joke Castor to be tearing up DMD.

Dante fights with no boundaries but for me GOW is like a set of routines that the player is forced to move through in each fight. It goes either dodge then attack, repeat OR Parry then attack, repeat. The ability is there for Kratos to pull off some crazy stuff but the fact that the enemies have such a set pattern prevents you from really exploiting it. Its like in a driving game where the AI opponents never deviate from there set path.

For me DMD is about trying out all my styles and applying the best one to each scenario. In GOW, there is no decision to be made, poor Kratos is set in his ways

[venom743]

Totally, beating some of the bosses in DMD using only Swordmaster must be scary!! In DMC every encounter plays out differently and for me Dance Macabre is one of the most weightless moves in the game... sure it looks good but the value it gives you considering how exposed you are left is riduculous.

Staying on the ground too long in DMD is a danger in itself

Your Swordmaster skills must be a joke Castor to be tearing up DMD.

Dante fights with no boundaries but for me GOW is like a set of routines that the player is forced to move through in each fight. It goes either dodge then attack, repeat OR Parry then attack, repeat. The ability is there for Kratos to pull off some crazy stuff but the fact that the enemies have such a set pattern prevents you from really exploiting it.

For me DMD is about trying out all my styles and applying the best one to each scenario. In GOW, there is no decision to be made, poor Kratos is set in his ways

My thoughts exactly. TBH, I don't really use Dance Macabre.
DMD really does test your ability to use all styles and if you're just sticking to one, then you're not getting the most out of the game.