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    Well, yeah, but it's only 50p a game if they work. So you can scratch Bubble Bobble and Thunderfox off that list, because the one's buggered up and the other's unworkable. You can also count out the lightgun games, because they're pointless without a lightgun. Scrub the ones that are kind of rubbish, too, because you'll get about five minutes out of them once, then never play them again.

    I know I'm sounding like a massive hypocrite now, but I think you're excused a moan or two when Empire are effectively getting an awful lot of money for something that won't have taken them very much time to stitch together at all. I'm tired of lacklustre presentation in these things now. It's a bit disgraceful that Sonic Jam, eight or so years old as it is, is still the best classic gaming compilation around in terms of the love lavished on it. TV ads, artwork, design sketches, music rooms, screens from pre-release versions - these things really should be standard inclusions by now.

    Hell, I only really bought it for Rainbow Islands and New Zealand Story, so it's still well worth the cash, but it's like Kubrick says - if Bubble Bobble's more serious problems only become apparent in its later stages, then who's to say that the same isn't also true for those two?

    I hung on for this because it was a hell of a lot cheaper than the Japanese packs. Whether or not I buy the second depends on whether or not Empire include some of the games that are missing from both Japanese packs - Arkanoid, mainly. If not, then the hell with it. I'll get the imports instead. At this rate, I may simply do that anyway - no guarantee that they won't also manage to make a bit of a mess of that one, too.

    Just to clear up what I said in my last post about the jumping in Bubble Bobble> I fired up the Saturn version and I was wrong, it's meant to be like that. I was right about the bubbles going out of the level boundary, though - that's an added extra for this collection. Yay.

    On the brighter side of things, how ****ing good are Zoo Keeper and Exzisus? I'd never played either of those before, but now I love them.
    Last edited by E. Randy Dupre; 23-10-2005, 23:27.

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      Just to clear up what I said in my last post about the jumping in Bubble Bobble> I fired up the Saturn version and I was wrong, it's meant to be like that
      An old chum of mine called 'Crow' (the only man I knew who could beat my high score on Kung-Fu Master, the bastard) played the arcade version of Bubble Bobble to death. He didn't rate that Saturn port of Bubble Bobble too highly, and he knew what he was talking about. As for the Empire version, well it's sounding a lot like it's ****ed up to me, but I'm no expert on the matter.

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        Yeah - afaik the Saturn version's not just a port of the arcade code, but a rewrite. They altered a fe of the levels so that you get different enemies on them, sprites were redrawn, you get a longer period of time at the start of a round before the enemies begin to move about, that sort of thing.

        The jumping thing I'm going on about is where, in the later levels, there are sort of invisible barriers up in front of you, preventing diagonal jumps. Only reason I thought that it might be another mistake was because I only noticed them when the rest of the game started to break, but it makes sense for it to have been the same in the arcade version. I can't see how it could be that both the Sat version and this one could have exactly the same glitch, especially when the Sat one's not the same code, which is why I figure I was wrong about that.

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          I no longer have this, but it was Rainbow Islands I bought it for. That would've been enough for me to keep it, but not when I couldn't use anything apart from a dualshock.

          I've since got the MD version, and it's nowhere near arcade perfect either, and not just cosmetically. The items seem to stay on the screen a lot longer than they're supposed to - on the arcade version, if you miss a jump to grab a jewel, it would almost certainly be gone by the time you made another attempt to reach it, but there's plenty of time on the MD.
          Oh well, at least it feels better to play thanks to me being able to use a joystick, map the controls, and hear the proper music.

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            Sorry Kubrick,

            But if you want perfect Rainbow Islands, buy the PCB or have a chat with Mr. MAME.

            Shocking, I know.
            Last edited by Il Postino; 24-10-2005, 14:33.

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              Originally posted by Il Postino
              If this hadn't happened, then we may not have seen Street Fighter, think on gypsy boy.
              Funniest thing I've read on here for ages! If you are going to light heartedly have a jab at someone, then this is how you do it, folks.

              Anyways, back on topic - I bought my copy pretty cheap off the forums, and yes there is no denying some of the games are atrocious, broken, poor controls etc - but I know for a fact I would happily pay ?20 just for Volfied. Have become scarily addicted to it - what a game.

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                Originally posted by optimusrhymes

                Any chance of Parasol Stars?!? One title I would love to see included!
                Wasn't this just made for the Amiga and ST, and never saw an arcade release?

                If Rainbow Islands isn't arcade perfect in this compilation then I'll stick to MAME. I've still got the brilliant Amiga version in the loft, but no Amiga to run it on though.

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                  Parasol Stars was also on the PC-Engine.

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                    Originally posted by: seany1979
                    Funniest thing I've read on here for ages! If you are going to light heartedly have a jab at someone, then this is how you do it, folks.
                    Well, I aim to please. The amazing thing is, I'm not just like this on the Internet, I'm a serious asshole in real life too.

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                      Originally posted by Bydo
                      Wasn't this just made for the Amiga and ST, and never saw an arcade release?

                      If Rainbow Islands isn't arcade perfect in this compilation then I'll stick to MAME. I've still got the brilliant Amiga version in the loft, but no Amiga to run it on though.
                      I was fairly sure it saw a MD and SNES release too...

                      I loved the music in parasol Stars, it was the only game which came close to the banned music from rainbow islands.

                      Another thing that annoys me is why don't they ever include Super Space Invaders in these packs? Easily the best remake of it

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                        Originally posted by abigsmurf
                        I was fairly sure it saw a MD and SNES release too...

                        I loved the music in parasol Stars, it was the only game which came close to the banned music from rainbow islands.

                        Another thing that annoys me is why don't they ever include Super Space Invaders in these packs? Easily the best remake of it
                        i'm also sure a hucard or a super cd version was available on the PC Engine

                        **shouts on Wheelaa**

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                          Super Space Invaders (AKA Majestic 12 - The Space Invaders Part IV) is on the Japanese Taito Memories Joukan pack.

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                            Originally posted by buster_broon
                            i'm also sure a hucard or a super cd version was available on the PC Engine

                            **shouts on Wheelaa**
                            It's a HuCard. Quite pricey...

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                              Originally posted by Kubrick
                              It's a HuCard. Quite pricey...
                              did you go for the korean special version of joukan and gerkan pal

                              or did you just lure me into it with your 'look at this' post

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                                I didn't, so I guess I lured you into it
                                Was tempted to get it for that special box, but I dunno if it'll be worth it since I already got both the books with my games. Have you got any pictures of it?

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