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    Well, at a lot of places where it is up for preorder in the UK, last time I checked it was titled:

    "Shadow of the Colossus (Ico 2)"

    So it is feasible that it is being marketed as Ico 2 (in the UK at least). It will still be called SOTC, but it seems like they want it to be seen as a sequel to Ico as opposed to a completely different game from the same devs.

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      As for the ending I really wish

      that the horse had been allowed to die.

      It would have made for such a sad and lonely note, really befitting of the game.

      In fact they could have

      left the girl in the coma altogether.

      Although that would have been a bit extreme/predictable.

      Perhaps making the end less hopeful would have been a step towards the maturity we often claim is missing in video games?

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        I never considered it to be even a vaguely hopeful ending...


        If she remained dead she would be spared the future of spending her entire life alone in an empty land



        What you're basically saying is you'd prefer if nothing happened at all?! Besides, I like the fact that for all that

        it was an evil bastitch, Dormin wasn't lieing to the wanderer

        Last edited by Darwock; 23-01-2006, 08:01.

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          Yeah, I'm with Darwock on this. It's a suitably tragic ending.

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            Originally posted by Darwock
            I never considered it to be even a vaguely hopeful ending...


            If she remained dead she would be spared the future of spending her entire life alone in an empty land



            What you're basically saying is you'd prefer if nothing happened at all?! Besides, I like the fact that for all that

            it was an evil bastitch, Dormin wasn't lieing to the wanderer
            Sorry I didn't explain myself well.

            Agro not reappearing

            would have made a nice touch but as for the girl, well I was only thinking of possibilities. Do we know she is aware of her previous life? She doesn't appear very upset. I agree that it is nice that the

            promise was kept.

            That is if it was Dormin's doing of course.

            As for being alone? She has the

            child. It is not hers. She is young. It won't take long for him to become an adult.

            Just ideas.

            It would be ignorant to assume that the team had not considered various endings. Or even that the particular ending was necessary for the rest of the (so far unknown) story. We'll just have to wait and see. Either way it's nice that we can debate the topic as it shows it must have captured us somehow. That in itself is a step towards maturity in gaming.

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              It can't be mature, 'there's not enough gays in it'(.tm)

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                Upon finishing this for the second time, I noticed a couple of things I didn't see the first time..


                During the end cutscene, Wanda (when hes come back from nailing Colossi 16) suddenly has horns. I know he did when he turns into a baby, but I didn't notice him having them before. How odd.

                I still don't fully understand the story, but I don't think you're supposed to. Clearly the people that came at the end once killed/banished/vanquished Dormin (possibly with the sword Wanda uses throughout), but the boy has heard that he can bring people back to life yadda yadda, his girlfriend (Mono I think?) dies, so he goes all out to save her, knowing he'll pay the ultimate price (as he said at the start "It doesn't matter").

                It's also strange that the guy with the mask (sorry, forgot his name) thinks Wanda might be alive going by his last statement "perhaps you'll feel atonement etc".


                Btw, are there two endings for the game? I have tried both times to grab the sword and kill the bloke before he gets it, but I haven't managed it. I am guessing there is just one ending anyway. Anyone know?


                Finally, above the secret garden looks to be more of the temple - can you get higher than the garden? Looked like there was stuff to climb



                Last edited by dc-arena; 31-01-2006, 00:02.

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                  Does anyone know if the PAL version will have 480p? The demo on the OPS2 magazine has it..so I'm hoping

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                    They said in a recent interview one of the reasons for the delay was to get PAL running in 480p. Presumably they mean 50hz, although I imagine the game will have a 60hz video selector too.

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                      So probably a no then I'm prepared to buy a PS2 component cable just for this...If it has 480p

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                        How playable is the jap version? Is it import friendly?

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                          Originally posted by Emir
                          Yeah, the Jap copy is easy to follow. The only problem is the story. If you already know what the game is about from the beginning, then it's pretty easy to understand the overall picture.
                          nevermind, question answered

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                            Just got this from Gameplay.co.uk. Played for 22 minutes, killed 2 colossi. Loving it ^_^

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                              Originally posted by Synthesthesia
                              Just got this from Gameplay.co.uk. Played for 22 minutes, killed 2 colossi. Loving it ^_^
                              I can`t wait to get mine.

                              I just went to see my local game shop. The lady in there is sound, I go in about two days before a game is released and pay cash in full. If it comes in a day or two early she`ll give me a bell and I go collect it.

                              She hasn`t got SotC today which is a shame but she did have ICO. I`m loving it and never played it 1st time round. I`m about an hour in and stuck so I`m having a bit of a break.

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                                Ah! Ico is great, got it on the way now. Had the LE cardboard version when it was first released, but sold it on for some stupid reason i've done 6 colossi now, number 5 was just best.boss.ever.

                                I played it while my friend was sitting with me, i shot it, and it headed towards me. My friend was like "RUN FOR COVER!" but i just jumped and grabbed onto it's fur

                                that, is probably one of the best moments gaming has EVER offered me. 10/10.

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