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    Originally posted by Yoshimax-UK
    Got past them - Had an epiphany others may find handy.


    Go to the ice cream parlour in the foodcourt and make a "run fast" smoothie then flee like a bastard



    Didn't want to hang about for the monitors thing so went on a rescue - missed getting back by about 30 seconds because the stupid ****er wouldn't climb a ledge to the vent shaft - story ****ed.

    BASTARD.
    I failed at the same point but have carried on regardless. Now on the last day and level 16, it's getting a lot better too because I can carry a lot more.

    Quick question - why do some people refuse to come with me? There was one girl in a CD shop who sounded like she would join but then refused. It didn't give me any objective as such to complete either...anyway, she's dead now like all the other ****ers.

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      @ Save System comments.

      Been there guys, don't worry, you do get used to it.

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        Originally posted by PeteJ
        I failed at the same point but have carried on regardless. Now on the last day and level 16, it's getting a lot better too because I can carry a lot more.

        Quick question - why do some people refuse to come with me? There was one girl in a CD shop who sounded like she would join but then refused. It didn't give me any objective as such to complete either...anyway, she's dead now like all the other ****ers.
        Batter em' about abit mate, I do that to pull em' into line. Works for some!

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          i didn't expect to complete story first time really. I'm just enjoying exploring the mall i want the maintenence key!

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            Got the one in the security room, but that seems like 10-15 minutes game play away from the food court.... just got killed again by the guy in there.

            It's a fun game, but a massive slap on the wrists for Capcom for this save system. I mean they're not stupid, this isn't their first game! Why would they make it so obstructive to save the game?!

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              I dont get it. I just got up to the clown guy, and he killed me as I have no idea how to ****ing kill him!?

              And then it sticks me right back to the start in the heli. Even though I saved it already in the security room like twice before!? Explain how thats saving? Every time I die I need to start from the very beginning and do it all again? So to complete the game you need to do everything without dying once?

              I knew the save system was supposed to be **** but I at least thought after dying, I would have went back to the ****ing save point!?

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                Everytime you die you get the chance to either go back to your last save or start over with your current stats, are you sure you selected load your save? (sorry to be pedantic i understand your pain ! )

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                  When you die, I think your opting for the save Frank's statistics aren't you, which in turn is throwing you back to the beginning?

                  As for Adam, the clown.

                  Don't go anywhere near him, he'll carve you up quickly otherwise. Instead, there are 4 or 5 police officers near a set of stairs on the 2nd floor. Beat em' up for their automatic pistols and sit afar taking shots at Adam, he'll go down eventually.

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                    Well I went down to get some lunch so I chose the Save option as I didnt want to load. I didnt think it would still chuck me back at the beginning though. So if I just chose Load, and switched it off, I would still have been able to pick up from my previous save point? So if you dont Save his stats, does that mean I start my load again with zero stats on Level 1? If so, then thats quite possibly the worst system ever.

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                      No, you start with the stats you had at the last save point.

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                        If you choose load it just loads your last save (in a toilet or the security room or wherever), with your stats etc. exactly as they were at the time of making that save.

                        The other option saves all your stats, but chucks you back to the beginning. However, if you click on this one you are also given the option to go back to the title screen without saving too.

                        Clear as mud!

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                          stuck on the second fight with Carlito (one with sniper rifle) any help would be great

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                            Originally posted by DUKENUKEM2UK
                            stuck on the second fight with Carlito (one with sniper rifle) any help would be great

                            This can be a tricky one, what weapons do you have? I tend to stock up on a lot of OJ, katana (Adam's Chainsaw is much better though) and a couple pistols and use the pillars for cover, wait till the other bloke shoots him so he's got his full attention, then sneak a few shots in, whilst moving in on him. Takes a bit of time if your not leveled up, but get in close enough then use either the katana or chainsaw and he goes down quickly.

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                              thanks alot bleeder for help only got a stungun and gutair as did not get to chainsaw scoop intime willl try and get a gun and some oj

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                                I get the impression that the save system is a slightly ill-advised attempt to increase the tension factor. Dying either means going through everything you did since the last save or restarting, and missing a single time could mess you up completely. I'm hoping that it'll get fixed, but I can't imagine that it was an accident to make it as annoying as it is.

                                I'm enjoying the game, though. Great fun (love the katana and the lawnmower) and the story seems surprisingly decent. It's so inspired by Dawn of the Dead that it's not even funny, though. I couldn't believe it when the in-game safe house is a couple of barricaded rooms only accessible through the roof

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