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It's now after 2:00am, for your own health take a break!
Awesome. Just finished Act 2 and it just gets more and more mental with every cut scene!
I was gonna go to bed at midnight but just kept playing until the next section kicked in but always kept going again and again, I thought Act 2 would never end! And then the scene at the end with
Raiden and Vamp fighting, that was amazing! Raiden is BADASS!!! Shame he's pretty ****ed up now. Wonder what happens to him!
I'm really enjoying this anyway, played for 8 hours on the dot now and only done Act 2 of 5 so plenty life left in this game yet! Glad I have the weekend off work to finish it.
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Not much to say here, everything that has been said so far is spot on. I bought a console *just* for this game, and I would gladly do it over, if only to play what I have so far (not that much).
A question for those who can help. Using the CQC I can never hold onto the soldiers (like in MGS2), so I can
slice their throat with the knife. I always end up knocking them out straight away.
Is there a trick to this?
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Originally posted by themanwithapc View PostIs there a trick to this?
Just go near them (from behind) and hold down R1. He should grab them, to slice their throats you press triangle once you have them grabbed.
One thing i can't work out though, how do you choke them like in the old ones? I've just finished the game and unless it's just holding them with R1 tight until they die then i haven't been able to do it. And holding them with R1 is crap.
Anyway...Yes, amazing game. Probably the best i've played this year- felt more complete than GTA4 did to me (not comparable i know, but just saying i preferred this)
Only read the spoilers here if you've finished the game! You've been warned.
The fight with
Vamp
was amazing I thought,
The way he kept getting up after I knocked him out, I thought maybe he has a set number of come backs... but no, he's gotten up for the 4th time, this can't be right. So I got the idea of stabbing him with the self injector Naomi gave me earlier on... It's a long shot right... Nope! It works, and it stops his nanomachines from healing his body. Cue Raiden to swoop in and steal my glory
Definitely my favourate boss encounter in the game. Although actually... When i come to think about it
I had to do the same trick of using the self injector (this time on snake though) with Screaming Mantis, who turns out to be none other than Psycho MantisWhich put a big smile on my face, he was my favourate boss out of MGS1.
The
ending after the credits
was a big surprise too, who would have thought that
Big Boss was still alive?
I'm glad that happened though, when the
credits started just after it showed snake (off screen) supposedly shooting himself I was just like "Wtf this is a bit of an anti climax"
But yeah, I'd say they answered most of my questions from the past games VERY well. Quite happy with how the game panned out
Going to go through it on the hardest setting again me thinks...
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Originally posted by themanwithapc View PostNot much to say here, everything that has been said so far is spot on. I bought a console *just* for this game, and I would gladly do it over, if only to play what I have so far (not that much).
A question for those who can help. Using the CQC I can never hold onto the soldiers (like in MGS2), so I can
slice their throat with the knife. I always end up knocking them out straight away.
Is there a trick to this?
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Originally posted by Synthesthesia View PostOne thing i can't work out though, how do you choke them like in the old ones? I've just finished the game and unless it's just holding them with R1 tight until they die then i haven't been able to do it. And holding them with R1 is crap.
frisk and grab them by the ollies to the ground
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Originally posted by JU! View PostI had the same problem was meant to go to bed at midnight. Come 1:30 I`m still playing. Need to play more of this amazing game after work.
My first 10 minutes with the game yesterday were a little jarring, mainly because I had to relearn the steath mechanics since the last MG game I played was Portable Ops which came out what, a couple of years ago.
The change to more open battlefields like the warzone are a change for the series but it still feels like MGS. Loving the new Octco Camoflague! Especially when you get the
face mask camo!
The boss fights have been enjoyable so far too,
once you defeat them though and have to kill them off in their somewhat 'human' form it's a little disturbing.
Also finding Old Snake a bit melancholy. Here's a character I literally grew up with abd seeing him so old and frail is a little sad
He's still a badass though!
Back 10 years ago when I played MGS, I replayed it probably 10 times and, although replaying games is something I generally don't get to do these days due to time restraints as well as having too many other games to play, I'm already thinking about replaying MGS 4
Does anyone know if it follows the series formula and grants you a new game+ upon completion with all weapons/infinite ammo etc?
Devil May Cry 4 was fantastic, GTA IV was even better, but already, this is the GOTY for me, if not generation.
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got the ltd edition from play, only in act 2, but its awsome so far, controls lovely, graphics stunning and detailedstory gripping
best ps3 game, so far already
i already feel sorry for old pops snake lol,
also loving MGO, loads of fun to be had there, have to hook up with you guys laterLast edited by yesteryeargames; 13-06-2008, 10:15.
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Do I like Metal Gear? Well, yes and no. I haven't played any of them pre-MGS2. I'm not sure whether I liked MGS2 or not. If i had to summarise, I'd probably say I think the plot was crap, but I liked the execution. Sometimes. MGS3 I've only played briefly and I love the MGS Acid games on the PSP. Portable Ops not so much. Overall, half the time I hate the series, and I've probably mouthed off about it, but I've also defended it on forums. Sometimes I've said I hated it, and then defended it within the space of a single post. Or a single sentence. Oh I don't know... MGS for me, overall... erm... when it's good it's very very good, when it's bad it's horrid? Who knows. Lets move on.
So, I came to MGS4 with quite mixed emotions. The hype has been enormous. But by the same token, EDGE and gamesTM have given it "just" an 8, and I've seen a few whinges online. By the time I was ready to stick it on, I'd been so overwhelmed by conflicting opinion, it would have taken something truly stellar to impress me. I think only 2 games this generation have genuinely blown me away within the opening segment - by doing something impressive enough to say "welcome to the next-generation". Gears (yes, really), and Oblivion (when you leave the sewers). I'd say MGS4 now also sits in that category, as the opening is such a memorable one.
It is no exaggeration to say I sat with my jaw on the floor a couple of times. Not neccesarily because something looked or sounded astonishingly good - though it is a visual and sonic feast - but because it really is quite... I guess... "brave"? Annoying, yes. Rather pretentious. But really quite mesmerically boundry breaking in many ways. It chucks about 50% of game convention out of the window, and while I've found previous installments rather annoying because of this, it seems far more charming this time round. Maybe that's a change in the market, and the fact games by and large follow some strictly defined conventions now, but I haven't seen an opening segment so creative since God of War kicked the genre-standard hand-holding tutorial into touch by having you fight a 140 foot monster within 5 minutes of starting the game. The start of this actually left me in that frozen state when your jaw drops and your brow knits and you mutter "WTF" under your breath every 10 seconds.
The sort of derranged, self-referential humour twinned with the (obviously) millions lavished on the tech, make MGS4 an incredibly curious product. It's absolutely, stubbonly odd. Very Japanese. I can see the American influence has tamed the oddness to an extent, but I still can't imagine Epic or someone putting something out like this. It is also surprisingly graphic. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it was pleasingly gory in bits.
And while it shuns a lot of game conventions, it still plays very much like a traditional game at times. The opening (well, the second... or perhaps third "opening"... oh... just play it) was really quite enjoyable and reminded me a bit of Half Life 2(ish) - I love the art style, I'm not really sure how I'd describe it, almost a cross between the high fidelity of Assasin's Creed, HL2: Episode 1 and the previous MGS installments. The cutscenes haven't so far been that intrusive. They look very nice, and are well done. The script is still ridiculous, and reminds me of that famous Harrison Ford line to Lucas when they were filming Star Wars where he told him about how he could "write this sh*t, but nodody could speak it" (or words to that effect, I imagine the first reply will correct me on that one). But, again, somehow here it seems less annoying than it used to. Probably because of the stellar production values - it just makes it seem even more bizarre. Like handing a Ferrari to a 6 year old or something. The person who made this is genuinely mad right?
I suppose the best thing you can say about it is by default it'll smash the cavalcade "play for a couple of hours and give up" rule, as who knows what'll be happening in another 2 hours. I don't even think I'll enjoy it all the way through. In fact I could see myself hating it, but I have to play it. Is this the game to make you buy a PS3? I really don't know. I'd say it's the most convincing reason yet....
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