Fallout 3

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And here's me thinking you could use Moira for other means............

Out of curiosity, if you don all the raider type get up and become evil in the game, will the raiders treat you as their own, like normal civillians would if you were good?

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[MattyD]

And here's me thinking you could use Moira for other means............

Out of curiosity, if you don all the raider type get up and become evil in the game, will the raiders treat you as their own, like normal civillians would if you were good?

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But she's so annoying!

Raiders pretty much attack anyone BTW, even Brotherhood of Steel and Enclave soldiers. That's why they're called 'raiders'

You do get different random encounters with bad karma though. Instead of getting attacked by Talon mercenaries you get attacked by a vigilante gang calling themselves The Regulators.

[Daragon]

I'm pretty sure the "Scourge of the living" title I've been given is maximum evil karma, yet I keep coming across Talon mercs and no Regulators.

[MattyD]

The wiki says they only attack when your karma is 'evil'. Presumably they believe they can reign you in or make you correct your ways at that stage, but right now you're so bad-ass they're afraid to take you on

It also says you can have random encounters with hitmen regardless of your karma... I only recall one myself so it might be a one-off.

[C']

Apparently patch 1.1 for all versions is out now.

Full details here:

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/updates-v1.1updatenotes-US.html

This caught my eye though

Fixed issue where dead NPCs would occasionally come back to life.

as it reminded me of an event that happened a couple of days ago.

Some time last week I was doing the

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molerat quest in the Tepid Sewers

for Moira and on the way there, as I reached the memorial near the destination, I heard gunfire up the steps. A few seconds later an NPC wastelander comes running down followed by a Deathclaw which proceeds to kill him and I finish it off. I take a second to mourn the NPC's death and natually scavenge his pockets for anything of value and move on my way.

I pass by this location a number of times then a couple of days ago as I pass through the game judders and in front of my eyes 2 NPCs spawn. One of them comes running towards me and thanks them for helping them with "that thing" and gives me a Note which I presume leads on to a side-ques so I haven't really looked at it since.

I just remember being baffled at the time and I'm assuming (from the update notes) that it shouldn't have happened (although I'm glad it did asthe guy gave me another lead for something to do which I may have missed).

[MattyD]

I think what you described is one of the random encounters you can have. Three wastelanders will be fighting with a weakened Deathclaw. If you help kill it and at least one of them survives they give you a note detailing a dungeon location. There's nothing overly valuable in there though.

Presumeably in your case the scripting glitched and the other two wastelanders didn't spawn until they popped in front of you.

[Womble9]

Bug Fixes

• Fixed occasional crashes during loading and waiting.
• Friendly or neutral NPC health bars, when taking damage, no longer flicker repeatedly.
• Fixed issue where certain NPCs would occasionally disappear from the game.
• Fixed issue where dead NPCs would occasionally come back to life.
• Fixed rendering issue with the Gatling Laser gun's tracers.
• Fixed issue where the haircut menu would occasionally not appear properly.
• Added ability to remap your VATS and pip boy buttons.
• Fixed rare load/save issues that would cause NPCs to behave incorrectly.
• Fixed issue where quest objectives would occasionally not update properly due to talking activators,
• intercoms and conversations.
• Using Radaway from the Pip-Boy's Status Menu repeatedly no longer crashes the game.
• Player no longer gets stuck in level up menu if their skills are maxed out.
• Fixed issue where multiple followers would occasionally not load into an interior.
• Fixed rare issue with getting stuck in VATS mode.
• Fixed rare crash with fighting NPCs with corrupted data.
• Fixed rare crashes while loading and saving games.
• Fixed rare issue where player would fall through the floor while in VATS.
• Fixed occasional crash after scoring a critical hit in the head with a Railway Rifle.
• Prevent NPCs from inadvertently dying from falling.
• Fixed occasional issue where the controller would stop working properly.
• Fixed crashes related to repeatedly equipping and dropping clothing and armor into the world.

Quest Fixes

• Fixed several instances where quest item stayed in inventory permanently after completing quests.
• Fixed an issue where the distress message would occasionally not play in Trouble on the Homefront.
• In The Waters of Life quest, the Citadel gate will open properly if the player fast travels away after exiting the Taft Tunnels but before reaching the Citadel gate with Doctor Li.
• For the Home Sweet Home quest, the broken protectrons in Big Town become active at the proper time.
• In The American Dream quest, fixed specific issue which prevented the player from accessing their belongings in the locker by the door if they left the room first.
• Fixed infinite caps exploit in Strictly Business quest.
• Fixed rare instance where Dad would have no valid dialogue during The Waters of Life quest.
• Prevent issue during the Finding the Garden of Eden quest where player would fade to black, instead of traveling to Raven Rock, while in combat with a follower.
• Fixed several XP speech exploits with certain NPCs.
• Fixed XP exploit with a robot in Fort Bannister.
• Fixed issue where player's controls can become locked permanently during The American Dream.

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Blimey, there wasn't much wron with it was there !!

Joking aside I'm glad they've got this patch out now and sorted so many things. As much as I've enjoyed playing this so far (and with nearly 90hrs of play I think it's quite clear I have enjoyed it) whenever I've not been playing it and have read about the bugs and glitches it's made me a little hesitant to carry on.

[MattyD]

Unfortunately no mention of a fix for the way the PC version's SECUrom DRM causes it to crash to desktop ALL THE FFF'in TIME since it picks up certain MP3 decoders as cracks

[Daragon]

I notice they've not addressed any of the infinite exp glitches.

The mister sandman one in any case...

[Briareos]

Has anyone had vanished NPC return upon using this patch? I've had the guy in the water treatment plant in megaton vanish and it would be great to get him back, hopefully I don't have to start a new game?

[MattyD]

Wait, there's a guy in the water treatment plant?

I remember someone mentioning him right at the beginning of the game but I never saw him once!

[Womble9]

Wait, there's a guy in the water treatment plant?

I remember someone mentioning him right at the beginning of the game but I never saw him once!

He's probably dead like mine and Briaroes's then. I found him lying dead on the floor just after I'd completed a little task he's set me, great .

[112]

Ive just discovered the Little Lamp Light place lol............ Good Job i had the 'child skill' as it gives you a couple of extra options, although i nearly missed an additional quest as a result............ Note to self, always try the other options first!

Has anyone tried the animal skill? Does it allow you to talk to the animals? Cos there are a load of Dogs and animals around, will the skill allow you to converse with them? Or am i being too ambitious?

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[MattyD]

He's probably dead like mine and Briaroes's then. I found him lying dead on the floor just after I'd completed a little task he's set me, great .

What am I missing out on by not talking to him then?

[Womble9]

What am I missing out on by not talking to him then?

He asked me to

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fix the leaky pipes around town, can't remember if he said he'd pay me or give me something for doing so

but when I'd done it I went looking for him and found him lying dead on the floor!!