Disgaea -Hour of Darkness

[?pint]

How the hell do I unlock some of these special character classes? >_<

And what level would you suggest would be good for transmigrating?

Pfff I can't remember how to play the game, too long spent not playing

[Saurian]

How the hell do I unlock some of these special character classes? >_<

And what level would you suggest would be good for transmigrating?

Pfff I can't remember how to play the game, too long spent not playing

Level 1000 is good for Transmigrating I find - Transmigrate to Genius of same character class, go back to 1000 and Transmigrate again - then level up to something sick! After Transmigrating I put all bonus point onto attack, in the case of Mages I put everything on INT and use Omega Star instead of Winged Slayer - but you CAN make a mage with high attack if you alternate between all on attack and all on INT on each Transmigration)

They have a guide for getting the extra classes at gamefaqs.com - the forum is rubbish tho! >_<

[MartyG]

Yup, level 1000+, anything lower than that and you start finding you're losing too much weapon mastery in the transmigration.

I still haven't defeated Baal Castle yet. I do however have a level 5002 Surt, so it'll not be long.

Regards
Marty

[Che Musashi]

I must get a cosmic blade. Stupid crappy Great Sword...

A word of advice if your Laharl is influential enough, pass Triple XP and Bonus gauge boost before playing Cave of Ordeals. You can get some cool stuff and alot of extra XP.

[Muz]

To be honest Che, passing the triple XP bill ain't worth the effort mate. Make sure you've got a 300 statistician on your weapon when clearing CoO3 and that'll triple the XP you get.

Then simply pass that weapon round to anyone you want to level up. I put it all on a sword (and also have a 1900+ armsmaster on it), then if i need to teach anyone Winged Slayer, i'll take them to level 5-3 (one where all squares invincable apart from one) and let them attack until they get Winged Slayer. Then take them to CoO3 and away you go!

I'm currently levelling my rogue. What i did was level a majin to about 500 and transmigrate it into a space pirate and level that up. That way you get much better movement, counter and base stats!

I'm focusing on getting some decent weapons through the item world which is why im doing the rogue (aiming for level 3500+) and then heading back to the Lord of Terror...

Hows everyone else getting on?

[Muz]

Hee hee -

I'm over 230hours and have done Cave Of Trials III over 2600 times! I noticed how much I've played it yesterday and was like f00k!!111

I beat Baal yesterday too - Super Robo Armour baby! 8)

Im gonna work on getting some killer majin's and then getting a decent rogue to steal everyones things. What tactic would you guys suggest do level up a rogue cos its taking me absolutely ages.

Takes no time at all!

I use a Legend Comsic Blade levelled to 100 (but 60+ is still cool) + the 300 statitision, high armsmaster etc. Give that to your rogue and get him to learn Winged Slayer in Jotunheim, Terrible Cold (repeatedly attack to increase weapon mastery level to level 10 to attain Winged Slayer, with a high grade armsmaster this takes no time) *attack a character thats lifting another so they cannot counter.

Then you level up at Cave Of Trials 3 using Winged Slayer - with a sword that powerful you dont need to use Braveheart. After transmigrating a few times you can easily deal with this stage with maximum enemy difficulty without Braveheart - in this setting you can get from level 1 to level 500something in 1 attack!

Wow 230 Hours! I thought i was dedicated! Yeah i'm levelling up the rogue ok but the sword i have is ****e - the best i've got is a rare diobolic sword at level 60. My 2700+ space pirate still cant one-shot CoO3 so it's taking me bloody ages!

Oh, and i just read some previous pages, all my advice for che on how to level up has all been said before! Sorry!

So what you got left to do Saur? Cant be much after 230 hours eh?! Got a yo****suna yet mate? If so, where from?

[Che Musashi]

I have a level 300 statistician in my sword...the only thing I'm missing are the armsmasters. I was saying in addition to that experience. Triple XP on top of that doesn't hurt. I don't have to bribe them I just have them vote.

Like 2 weeks ago my Lahar was level 78 now I'm four hundred and something. So that is progress eh? Not accounting for lost Dynasty Warriors time. The only thing I have to work on now is getting armsmasters. By this time next week I will be unstoppable with all my characters...

Thanks for all the info though. I forgot about the invincible place to teach my peeps swordmaster skills.

Still you brits are kicking my ass with your power levelling. I must catch up...

[Muz]

I have a level 300 statistician in my sword...the only thing I'm missing are the armsmasters. I was saying in addition to that experience. Triple XP on top of that doesn't hurt. I don't have to bribe them I just have them vote.

Like 2 weeks ago my Lahar was level 78 now I'm four hundred and something. So that is progress eh? Not accounting for lost Dynasty Warriors time. The only thing I have to work on now is getting armsmasters. By this time next week I will be unstoppable with all my characters...

Thanks for all the info though. I forgot about the invincible place to teach my peeps swordmaster skills.

Still you brits are kicking my ass with your power levelling. I must catch up...

I know what you mean che but remember the Triple XP bill only works on the first enemy killed and not the whole group. But if you can pass it by just voting then fair enough. I think that the rhythm of quickly doing 10 or 20 (i do it in 50's at least!) CoO3's in a row is better than stopping to pass the bill. But thats the beauty of this game, that everyone will play it differently.

Getting a 1900 (no need to get any higher as this is the cap in the game) armsmaster took me absolutely ages cso i didn't know that subduing a resident doubles their value, i thought that happens when you take out the item general, so i was clearing ten floors on every single item! But it is well worth it cos to unlock the majin class you have to have a level 200 scout, brawler, ninja and rogue (as well as a warrior but they're ok cos they have good sword mastery skills). Took me long enough to get to sword master 10 (for Winged Slayer) with the 1900 armsmaster on the scout and rogue so without it, it must take ages!

I would say concentrate on getting the armsmaster and with a 300 statistician you will be fine levelling people for long enough to be able to take on the item world without any probs. Then you can get some gladiators on and whack them on one sword and get the rest of your party levelled up.

Good luck mate - all the efforts worth it!

[Saurian]

So what you got left to do Saur? Cant be much after 230 hours eh?! Got a yo****suna yet mate? If so, where from?

Nah I havent got that sword yet >_<

I was hoping I'd get one when I fully levelled my Legend Cosmic Blade but I didnt come across one as an item or to be stolen. Last night I made another Divine Majin, tranmigrated from level 1000 a few times then levelled to 3000 - turned the difficulty back down to minimum so I can try the Item World a bit more tonight. I'm looking to fully level a few more of the legend Cosmic Blades tonight to try and find that Yo****suna - I've got Super Robo Armour off Baal, need phatter swords tho! If I have time I want to make a sick Kagutsuchi too - they pwn.

Best thing about this game is that you can have choons going and zoot in hand while levelling

[Saurian]

I got one!!!

Levelled a Legend Cosmic Blade all the way to 100 last night and the boss on the final floor had the Yo****suna equipped! The boss is a Majin, has LOADS of HP but after stealing his weapon and stuff his attack power was minor. I managed to steal it without problems - it's a big yellow light-sabre ^^

I'm gonna level-up this sword to see if I get more!

(I tried stealing the Yo****suna, using Gency's exit then re-entering to see if the boss' equipment resets - it doesnt >_< would have been WICKED tho! )

[Muz]

Saur! Well done matey. I have a rare cosmic blade and i was going through that to find a leg cosmic blade but no luck. I've got a load of other level 39 items so i'll try those.

Im guessing that your characters are a lot stronger than mine but could you give me a rough indication of say, the 3 or 4 strongest in your party and what kinds of damage their attacks do so i know what to aim for when taking on the item gods.

Have you killed the lord of terror yet? And what about the one after him?

One question though. I've levelled all the way to 99 on a legendary arcadia (from priere) and the item god 2 on the 100th floor absolutely destroyed me. So i have gone back to square one and am gonna make 5 killer devine majins and then take the game back on. Anyway, if i go to the 100th floor, steal the item gods arcadia and then gency out - do i get to keep the arcadia i stole? And will the arcadia im levelling then be ranked at level 100?

[Saurian]

Anyway, if i go to the 100th floor, steal the item gods arcadia and then gency out - do i get to keep the arcadia i stole? And will the arcadia im levelling then be ranked at level 100?

Yeah I had a look at how this worked last night - if you Gency out after stealing you keep the item you stole and the item you were levelling will be ranked at lv99. You can go back, defeat the boss and get that last level at any time.

My strongest characters are -

Laharl ( sword attack power >200000) *levelling the Yo****suna to increase.
2 Cosmic Heroes (rest attack power >170000)
2 Shoguns (one Axe one Sword same attack power as rest)
2 Divine Majins (both sword same attack power)
(all > lv2500 Transmigrated at least 3 times @ lv1000)

I aim for 200000 attack power for now, this is typical of my equipment for all:
Rare Cosmic Blade (>lv60)
Nirvana (not levelled)
Testament (not levelled)
Accelerator

All have Omega Heal, Magic Boost and Braveheart

All my characters are levelled the same - I always Transmigrate at lv1000 a few times and start over but boosting attack with all bonus points. For support I have a Space Pirate (sword), Savior, Lord (Gun) and Galaxy Mage all levelled the same way same value - for other classes I have;

Bahamut
Nidhogg
Kagutsuchi
(all with Tera Spells, Braveheart, Omega heal, Magic boost)

I can (just) struggle my way through a fight with the 1st Baal - I reckon after I have more Yo****sunas and level then up he'll be a pushover! He's easier to deal with if you steal his stuff first

[Muz]

Cheers mate...I'd better get started then!

Also, on the arcadia note, does that mean i can steal his arcadia, gency out, go back in, steal another thing off him, gency out...till i've gone and stole all his equipment and i can still get the item god level up for the arcadia when i eventually go back in and kill him?

[Saurian]

Cheers mate...I'd better get started then!

Also, on the arcadia note, does that mean i can steal his arcadia, gency out, go back in, steal another thing off him, gency out...till i've gone and stole all his equipment and i can still get the item god level up for the arcadia when i eventually go back in and kill him?

Naw, I hoped something like that would work but it doesnt >_<

If you Gency out and return - the stage, enemies and boss is different - the boss may be the same type but the equipment will be different (same goes for the enemies)

After stealing the Yoshi and his armour off him I Gency'd out healed and went back in only to find that he now only had standard equipment.

The key to good characters is definetely Item World I feel - you can boost the attack on weapons stupidly high, it's more fun than Cave Of Trails III too! This + levelling weapon mastery at Jotunheim, Terrible Cold (high level armsmaster equipped) is a good way to make very powerful attack characters!

[Muz]

Cheers Saur.

Im thinking that means i can go in and out of the last floor, stealing items and storing them up and then i can (try to) kill the item god and still get the level-up bonus for the weapon? Cool.

Just a question out of curiousity mate, apart from the scout class (who can change geopanels - which no other class can do), why have you got different classes in your team when you have the devine majin opened up? Or were these characters made and levelled before you opened the devine majin up?