Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 (PES 2010) [360/PS3/PC]

[hudson]

The keepers are better in full version is what I mean. As stated by Konami, the demo code was from August which was used in that Game Show (I forget). Week later, the WE2010 demowas released in Japan which feature much newer code. The full release has over a months worth of tweaks and adjustments in comparison to the original PES2010 demo.

Keepers do occassionally parry in front of them, as sometimes this can happen in footy, but Konami did stress and have actually put more focus on keeper parrying left or right of goal. More often than not conceding a corner.

I believe 360 movement is in there, but it's so subtle and probably not full 360. More like 16 when sprinting and 32 or so when using controlled pace or without ball.

[rmoxon]

So are you basing your opinion on Through balls and easy shots for when playing against AI or..?

Because, I think if you are actually defending a through ball, using a footballing brain, utilising the use of R1/RT to select a defender and Super Cancel, it is down to you, the player, to attempt to read such an occurance. Don't leave it to the AI, mate.

The game allows for this control, as does FIFA. Or do you control just one of your players and leave the rest to the AI?

Maybe, like Glazza said, you are not playing the game how it's meant to be played.

I'm playing the game right, and again, i'd appreciate it if youd stop talking to me like I'm retarded.

Having said that I find that when you arent controling your defenders (when they are off camera foir example) they leave attacking players in so much space that you simply dont have time to make it all up if you do take control of them, so it actualy dosent matter what you do anyway. Its just not very much fun really when its impossible to defend through balls that have traveled half the pitch. It all feels a bit pointless in the end.

[hudson]

Didn't mean to offend you.

The game is more focused on defensive play. Whereas last year it was attaack, attack, attack.

Them game really allows you to back off with a defender whilst using second player pressure with a DMF or second defender. This is how I like to play. It's how I do it in FIFA too. I really don't mean to tell you that you are not playing the game very well, but I want you to know and I assure you that this is how I've played footy games for as long as I remember (well a fair few years). It is a tactic that the best players on PES Rankings use too and it works in PES 2010. I'm not making it up. It is not broken because I play top PES players on my friends list. Believe me... you need to up your game a little if you are falling victim to constant through ball spam from noobs.

[rmoxon]

Didn't mean to offend you.

The game is more focused on defensive play. Whereas last year it was attaack, attack, attack.

Them game really allows you to back off with a defender whilst using second player pressure with a DMF or second defender. This is how I like to play. It's how I do it in FIFA too. I really don't mean to tell you that you are not playing the game very well, but I want you to know and I assure you that this is how I've played footy games for as long as I remember (well a fair few years). It is a tactic that the best players on PES Rankings use too and it works in PES 2010. I'm not making it up. It is not broken because I play top PES players on my friends list. Believe me... you need to up your game a little if you are falling victim to constant through ball spam from noobs.

No, it dosent really matter wjhat you do becuase you cant defend throughballs if your deffenders arent on the screen, its impossible, a full powered through ball just flys through your defence and if the other team has good attacking players they latch onto it. It was one of the main reasons last years game was crap, its why the Wii versions of the game are crap and it hasnt been improved for this either.

[hudson]

No, it dosent really matter wjhat you do becuase you cant defend throughballs if your deffenders arent on the screen, its impossible, a full powered through ball just flys through your defence and if the other team has good attacking players they latch onto it. It was one of the main reasons last years game was crap, its why the Wii versions of the game are crap and it hasnt been improved for this either.

No. I can. Forget it, mate. It's your word against mine. I'm not sure if anything here will be solved lol. Sell it and move on.

[rmoxon]

No. I can. Forget it, mate. It's your word against mine. I'm not sure if anything here will be solved lol. Sell it and move on.

I really doubt you can, unless you have have some kind of specialy version of the game that lets you select and control players that arent on screen, but yeah anyway, I've sold it already, it went towards DJ hero yesterday actualy....

[hudson]

We really need to play each other so you can baldder me via amazing super through balls and really long easy shots. Seriously. I'm gonna get the 360 version to play you.

What's happened here is that I've unvieled your noobness or blatant blind down talking of a title and you are in last straw stubborn lie mode.

Funny how PES players arent complaining about being bummed by easy thru balls isn't it?

People have been PMing me of how you look stupid in this thread.

[rmoxon]

PES players seem to really get upset easily and defend their game regardless of how bad it gets.

So to be honest I'm not bothered if they think I'm stupid, I think they are stupid for liking a broken game really.

I'm hardly a noob, Ive been playing Konami football games since the snes days, I play virtualy every footy game that is released really.

[hudson]

But you are the only person I've seen have a problem with easy shots and through balls. I am on WENB and PES Fan forums daily. These sites are the hubs where Konami read for feedback on their game. The forums are full of gripes, mostly about animations and button lag online, but nothing on what you are referring to. So... I find it a little strange.

Oh and now you are calling us stupid. Nice one.

[rmoxon]

But you are the only person I've seen have a problem with easy shots and through balls. I am on WENB and PES Fan forums daily. These sites are the hubs where Konami read for feedback on their game. The forums are full of gripes, mostly about animations and button lag online, but nothing on what you are referring to. So... I find it a little strange.

Oh and now you are calling us stupid. Nice one.

Actualy you called me stupid, I was never planning on stooping to that, but you kinda deserved it.

I would imagine the most people On PES fan forums are like you, and seem to be inable to admit that the game dosent work very well.

Ive never taken other peoples comments as fact anyway really, I know what I think of the game and I'm not gonna say otherwise just to appease its "fans".

[hudson]

What? Go on the effin forum, mate. It's like the FIFA forum. People express their problems with the game. They're not all sucking each other off with high fives as you imagined lol.

You really are out of control

[rmoxon]

What? Go on the effin forum, mate. It's like the FIFA forum. People express their problems with the game. They're not all sucking each other off with high fives as you imagined lol.

You really are out of control

Why would I want to go on the PES forum? I just told you, i'm not that fussed about what people think of the game, Ive played it quite a bit, I know what its like, I dont need to see what other people say to make me feel better, or worse as you seem to be hopoing it would do.

Anyway lets just stop this now, I feel the game is crap, and a monkey could play it blindfolded by simpley pushing the analogue stick and pressing a combination of through ball and shoot. Thats what i think, thats why I stold the game, becuase it was crap and required no thought or skill what so ever, it simpley wasnt what I was looking for. End of Story.

[hudson]

haha. I'm glad you've submitted. In the end, you were your own worst enemy in here. You tried your best and I enjoyed your spirit, but flames do go out. I wish you well for the future.

<Street Fighter announcer voice> HOOLAK WINS!

[rmoxon]

Ok.... whatever makes you happy.

[nakamura]

People have been PMing me of how you look stupid in this thread.

What a dickish thing to say there. Pretty needless if you ask me.

Regarding the forum thing, PES does have easy shooting, there is no satisfaction from scoring from range as the game does all of the work for you. If thats not reported on the forum fine but it doenst mean its not there. After learning the shooting on Fifa there is so much more satisfaction in scoring from range.
As for the defending its not great, you talk of supercancels etc but the AI needs to have some level of intelligence.
Also hardcore blind fans are not so likely to admit its a broken game.

I wasnt going to say anymore but I couldnt let rmoxon look like a dick all by himself now.