Dark Souls

[hudson]

Congrats, mate. Legend.

[J0e Musashi]

Can the Four Kings even be beaten?

I'm furious. I got all the way to the gate, summoned Beatrice and she just jumped to her death. WTF? That seemed like my only decent chance of beating them too.

Also, when I get invaded what is this spell that stops me from running that EVERYBODY uses?

['Press Start']

Can the Four Kings even be beaten?

I'm furious. I got all the way to the gate, summoned Beatrice and she just jumped to her death. WTF? That seemed like my only decent chance of beating them too.

Also, when I get invaded what is this spell that stops me from running that EVERYBODY uses?

If your Melee build then iron skin with havel armour and grass shield (Stamina regen, wear it on your back whilst 2 handing) does the job nicely. Take the big magic attack on the chin, get up close, heal, smash to bits. Repeat!!

Nice quick way to the four kings from firelink is run past the first 2 ghosts across the bridge, go right of the first stair case and roll off the edge into the shallow water with about 4 Dark Wraiths to fight. If your fast just leg it past everything into the fog door.

The spell being used against you is 'over encumber' (I think). It's like your wearing iron skin without the protection and I think its learnt through the miracles teacher. The stone giants (Jimtendo corrected me) use it in dark root forest. Glad I got my PVP in before that became a fav!

[jimtendo]

Also, when I get invaded what is this spell that stops me from running that EVERYBODY uses?

I thought it was Twilight Walk of Peace, twinned with ninja ring = backstab city. Repeat rinse, dry...
Thankfully it's been nerfed a bit. The stone giants (Darkroot Basin) drop a stone sword which has a similar effect, where the target (when hit) has reduced run/ roll capabilities.

Troll city tis PvP.

[rmoxon]

I thought it was Twilight Walk of Peace, twinned with ninja ring = backstab city. Repeat rinse, dry...
Thankfully it's been nerfed a bit. The stone giants (Darkroot Basin) drop a stone sword which has a similar effect, where the target (when hit) has reduced run/ roll capabilities.

Troll city tis PvP.

Invaders do love to backstab but dont seem to realise that this game has walls, so now all I do when invaded is stand with my back to a wall, hold up my shield, and wait till they either bugger off or are knackered from being blocked and i kill them with my lightning spear.

Most invaders dont seem to have a plan B so this is a brilliant strategy really.

['Press Start']

Invaders do love to backstab but dont seem to realise that this game has walls, so now all I do when invaded is stand with my back to a wall, hold up my shield, and wait till they either bugger off or are knackered from being blocked and i kill them with my lightning spear.

Most invaders dont seem to have a plan B so this is a brilliant strategy really.

Acid cloud for you!!! :P

[rmoxon]

Acid cloud for you!!! :P

I'll kill you before it works!!!!!

[J0e Musashi]

Ok, so Havel's Armor and ring, and Grass Crest Shield. What weapon though? Is Havel's Dragontooth any good? I gather it's got to be something large so I can smash them quickly. My Raw Uchigatana +5 takes 106 per hit, which isn't enough.

[briareos_kerensky]

I thought it was Twilight Walk of Peace, twinned with ninja ring = backstab city. Repeat rinse, dry...
Thankfully it's been nerfed a bit. The stone giants (Darkroot Basin) drop a stone sword which has a similar effect, where the target (when hit) has reduced run/ roll capabilities.

It's Tranquil Walk of Peace And yes, the Stone Giants drop their Stone Sword and its two handed strong attack has exactly the same effect of this miracle: in short it doesn't allow you to run and roll. An invader tried to pull this off once in the Painted World but I was able to get to him, start a two-handed combo with a greatsword and was dead shortly after finished the casting.

Ok, so Havel's Armor and ring, and Grass Crest Shield. What weapon though?

Get a Fire or even better a Chaos weapon, as it scales with humanity and you get extra damage. Upgrade the highest damaging weapon you can handle and you should be fine.

['Press Start']

Ok, so Havel's Armor and ring, and Grass Crest Shield. What weapon though? Is Havel's Dragontooth any good? I gather it's got to be something large so I can smash them quickly. My Raw Uchigatana +5 takes 106 per hit, which isn't enough.

I had black knight sword +4 at the time. It was my best friend during the dark times!

[rmoxon]

Ok, so Havel's Armor and ring, and Grass Crest Shield. What weapon though? Is Havel's Dragontooth any good? I gather it's got to be something large so I can smash them quickly. My Raw Uchigatana +5 takes 106 per hit, which isn't enough.

The Best weapon in the game for me is still the fully upgraded Demon Spear, by quite a long way actualy. Its very powerful and its attack is doubled due to the fact that it does lightning damage on top of normal damage. Plus unlike normal lightning weapons it still scales with your stats.

By the way a good tip for the four kings is while your stamina is recharging circle around the one you havea lock on to the right (their left), half of their attacks will miss you.

[J0e Musashi]

Right, cheers gents. I feel I'll be able to do this now. Should I bother summoning Beatrice? Apparently she will take all the agro, leaving me free to attack them constantly.

[rmoxon]

Can summon her if you want... but I still think summoning NPC's is cheating .

[yvrmikiw]

all the bosses get an hp boost if you bring in extra phantoms. keep that in mind if you consider summoning beatrice as you will have to do more work to win

[fuse]

I didn't know that!

I still think that having a second target to take aggro is a much bigger benefit though. Regarding your particular plight J0e, I'd say your problem is the damage output. ~100 doesn't seem enough for that fight, and as general advice you want to kill them asap - the longer the fight goes on, it gets exponentially harder. Don't do enough damage and you will end up in all kinds of trouble.