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    Originally posted by bcass View Post
    The "fix" they applied is wonky as hell - it looks like they just extended the area he can walk over, even if that area is in thin air! It just looks so crap. This new glitch causes him to walk even beyond this new invisible area though. A proper fix would just ensure that he only ever walks within the boundary of the large platform he walks down onto from the steps when he first appears. The Atheon battle is tough on Hard mode, even for a full group of 30s, so it doesn't surprise me that people are still looking for glitches.
    That cause everyone is using the relic wrong in battle your supposed to all be with the relic's field during the counter on Atheon.



    Need to kill a Gorgan for its grimoire entry as well.

    Couple of warlocks should make this easy:
    Last edited by S3M; 03-11-2014, 17:25.

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      Originally posted by S3M View Post
      That cause everyone is using the relic wrong in battle your supposed to all be with the relic's field during the counter on Atheon.
      Why? It doesn't shield players when activated, all it does is cleanse people who were in the portal with you. Getting the timing right to get everyone in the middle at exactly the right point, and then getting everyone to jump back out at exactly the right point, significantly increases the amount of co-ordination from the team. I've been in a few raids where people have done it and I'm not fully convinced that it makes it any easier.

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        Originally posted by bcass View Post
        Why? It doesn't shield players when activated, all it does is cleanse people who were in the portal with you. Getting the timing right to get everyone in the middle at exactly the right point, and then getting everyone to jump back out at exactly the right point, significantly increases the amount of co-ordination from the team. I've been in a few raids where people have done it and I'm not fully convinced that it makes it any easier.
        Yes it dose shield all players and it massively ups your damage too! its the easiest way to kill him. if you all jump out backwards with a couple of seconds to spare everyone should get out without getting hit too

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          Putting the Relic shield up when you come back through the portal to face Atheon protects all the players inside it from his attacks, not Supplicants though.

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            I'd never even realised the relic shield shielded you against Atheon's attacks as I'd usually left too many Supplicants alive that were still hitting us. However, while the relic holder is using the relic as a shield they can't attack Atheon with it's charge bolt, which means it's going to take longer to kill him, so I think there are pros and cons to each method.
            Last edited by bcass; 04-11-2014, 01:35.

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              Atheon isn't that much more difficult on Hard. Last week we beat him within 4 portal runs or so, we had 2 or 3 level 30's I think. Its just that you have to be lucky not to get screwed over by one of the many glitches. It does seem to me though that Normal is more vulnerable to glitches right now. We had a harder team beating normal... which isn't... normal.

              The problem with Hard Raid is that if all 29's get warped, you could be a goner. If there is always a 30, its no real problem. We just arranged that whatever 30 holds Square when teleported. The rest stays the same, its middle platform shield and jump away at 3. A difference with Normal is that he puts a barrier around the non teleported guys like the Templar does, which needs to be shot or melee destroyed.

              You can seriously hurt him with upgraded Praedyth or Patience and Time, like 14x 13k a shot in case of Patience (more with WoL). Sadly too many people resort to that lame ass Ice Breaker.

              Next to the portal and warp issues, my biggest issue is actually that damn minotaur getting his full health back while I smash him.
              Last edited by Panta Rhei; 03-11-2014, 22:26.

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                I wouldn't recommend doing Atheon (hard mode) with less than four level 30s. Spent a large part of the evening trying it out, initially starting with five level 29s and a 30, then gradually replacing 29s with 30s as the 29s got bored and left, and as soon as we had four 30s we did it in around 3 attempts. Having four level 30s meant that we always had a level 30 assigned to relic holder for each portal. Apologies to S3M - there was no sign of you at the time you're usually about so started after waiting a while.
                Last edited by bcass; 04-11-2014, 01:33.

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                  Originally posted by bcass View Post
                  I wouldn't recommend doing Atheon (hard mode) with less than four level 30s. Spent a large part of the evening trying it out, initially starting with five level 29s and a 30, then gradually replacing 29s with 30s as the 29s got bored and left, and as soon as we had four 30s we did it in around 3 attempts. Having four level 30s meant that we always had a level 30 assigned to relic holder for each portal. Apologies to S3M - there was no sign of you at the time you're usually about so started after waiting a while.
                  No worries we get to do it all again tonight, the level 29 have to be decent players on hard managed to solo the VoG up to templar on hard thanks to this glitch.



                  Guessing it will be patched fairly soon however.

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                    The Spire is exactly the same on Heroic. Level 26 enemies and just one ascendant chest that you won't get again on another difficulty. Makes sense as its no darkness area.
                    Last edited by Panta Rhei; 04-11-2014, 15:17.

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                      You can ride your sparrow up to the door, park with the door to your left and as you hop of your sparrow it gets you through the door.

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                        Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                        Yes it dose shield all players and it massively ups your damage too! its the easiest way to kill him. if you all jump out backwards with a couple of seconds to spare everyone should get out without getting hit too
                        Add a Titan shield as well for even more damage

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                          Raid was ridiculously glitchy tonight....the Templar kept warping and trapping us, then the relic holder kept getting stuck vs the Gatekeepers!

                          Did it in the end...for the first time since week 1 of the raid I actually got something new, the sniper rifle!
                          I also have 91 ascendant shards now

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                            Originally posted by BaronSqwelch View Post
                            Raid was ridiculously glitchy tonight....the Templar kept warping and trapping us, then the relic holder kept getting stuck vs the Gatekeepers!
                            i just came from a hard mode raid where the same thing happened multiple times, starts to wear thin pretty fast

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                              Another Heroic Raid down, another Mythoclast. And so glad another guy also got it, because he wouldn't believe me that its rather ****e. He agrees now.

                              Some other guy got Praetorian Foil, which is a weapon I actually wanted.

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                                23 strange coins in the bank finally. Come the **** on Xur, hit me with your best!

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