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    I had yet another crash on Oblivion. Something like the sixth in ninety hours since restarting post-SI. I honestly don't know if it's my 360 now (it crashes once in a blue moon on other games) or shoddy programming. With the scare stories in this thread it's impossible to know.

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      Oblivion is quite renowned for crashes so unless it's happening with a telling frequency or on other games it's nothing.

      TBM couldn't agree more but what you gonna do ?

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        Maybe we should all just trade in our 360s for the Elite editions!! Mind you, that's almost like we're rewarding Microsoft for short changing is the first time.

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          Sadly there's no reason at the moment to believe that the Elite is going to be any better in terms of reliability

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            I'm not expecting it to be either.
            If it does turn out to be more reliable I'd be tempted to part ex my 360 for one and I'm sure a lot of other people would to just ensure it didn't die/freeze/burst into flames/explode/commit suicide/etc.

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              Im getting worried now, ive seen all the horror stories.

              Ive had my 360 about 2 weeks, and its been great.

              Now I am experiencing some freezing issues. Only with one game so far? Call of Duty 3.

              I get freezing 3-4 times so far on the part where your waiting for more players to join an xbox live game, and I just got freezing AFTER a game, when I opened the guide using the button in the middle of the controller.

              Are these issues just to do with Call of Duty 3 or is my 360 going tits up?

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                Happens with me and COD3 aswell mate, wouldn't worry about it.

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                  Originally posted by Gerry Helmet View Post
                  Happens with me and COD3 aswell mate, wouldn't worry about it.
                  Phew, glad its not just me!

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                    Also - the guide button is notorious for causing lock-ups. Try not to use it unexpectedly - pause the game first - and especially not when a game is loading. In general keep yourself disconnected from Xbox Live unless you're using it. My console will lockup 8/10 when I hit the guide button when someone comes online.

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                      My Xbox 360 just literally ATE my Test Drive Unlimited disc when I started it up 10 minutes ago and I can now only access the dashboard as just about every game I own crash or freeze.

                      I've phoned the (Microsoft) customer services up and there will be somebody coming to pick it up on Saturday 'between 8am till 4pm' - I have to work at 10 till 4pm but thanks anyway(!)

                      Crap, crap, crap.

                      I'm going to give the next model one more chance then that’s it; no Xbox 360 until the (newer) system is proven to be stable for good.

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                        I`m on my second 360 since October and this one has now started to worry me.

                        The problem just seems to be with GRAW2, when it loads anything from the multiplayer it sounds like someone has thrown a handful of gravel in the machine and it makes a horrible noise.

                        It`s still under guarentee thankfully.

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                          I wonder if there are any (technical) repair guides out there, it seems repairing Xbox 360s could be a valuable service in the future.. also quite interesting.. I suppose its the inevitability of technology getting more and more advanced, and therefore less reliable?

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                            Originally posted by chaoticjelly View Post
                            I suppose its the inevitability of technology getting more and more advanced, and therefore less reliable?
                            That's a fair point but PS3's (*touch wood*) seem far more reliable and the technology in those are arguably more advanced than what's in the 360. What puzzles me is how 360's are still full of problems. With launch units its half expected that there will be a considerable percentage of iffy units, but we're now more than 18months past launch and there are still problems with the hardware that haven't been ironed out. Part of me blames the red ring of doom, no other console has pretty lights come up when it breaks, I think it's just the 360 showing off saying 'look at me, i'm telling you that I'm broken!'

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                              The inclusion of the epoxy resin on the edges of the chips has solidifed what I've known for a while now, that board warping leads to the chips being pushed and pulled to the point they seperate from the board. Problem is, this method is not a cure. It might stop the rot, but it won't eliminate the problem.

                              What remains to be revealed is whether or not the actual motherboard PCB is more rigid (less warp prone). This would of course make the expoxy unneccessary, but MS might be hedging their bets.

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                                Yesterday saw a shop demo 360 borked, sod being a salesman there ..

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