Nintendo 3DS

[Dogg Thang]

And in your last post, it was because companies don't release games in the summer. You're sort of dancing around excuses when the reasons really don't matter - the fact remains that the available games and current release schedule is pretty shocking. As I said in an earlier post, yes, we early adopters expect a mere trickle of games - I've bought every handheld at launch, I know what to expect. This does not constitute a trickle. A trickle would be a big step up from where the 3DS is right now.

It has been a poor launch on many counts. Nintendo's own words over the last few days say as much.

[Jebus]

Were you held at gunpoint, forced to buy one?

Moreover, did you not already know that nothing much was coming until Zelda, then nothing again until September?

I'm not saying that the launch line up wasn't piss poor (though I personally don't think it's as bad as is being made out), but to complain about something that was already known, and ignored for whatever reason by the consumer is just...well, I find it a little odd.

As I said, there are games out there if you want them for the console. Have you played Dream Trigger 3D? Because that hasn't been out long, and is excellent, and a game designed from the ground up for the console. It didn't chart well - because none of the people complaining about the lack of games actually purchased it!

[Neon Ignition]

It would have been nice to have a heavy hitter but to be honest it's not been wildly out of what I expected. Hardware releases with anything of note within the first twelve months are very rare on the ground. It's certainly something they need to address as the Wii in particular over the last 2 years has shown how lapse Nintendo has been with releases but it's Xmas they need to get right rather than Summer. To fail to capitalise this Xmas would be a massive negative for the system. Still, if it bombs, they might bring back the Game Boy

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-01-nintendo-plans-paid-dlc-for-3ds-wii-u

Nintendo is also planning to finally role out proper online support with DLC. No bitty horse-armour items though as they feel it ruins the 'consumer experience'.

[Dogg Thang]

Were you held at gunpoint, forced to buy one?

Ah, we've reached the 'gunpoint' stage, have we? Already? No. No, I wasn't. That, as always, is a pointless argument. And yet, bizarrely, the lack of a gun doesn't put games on shelves.

And, no, I haven't played Dream Trigger. Reports don't seem to draw me to the game and the only reason I could find to buy it is that there is simply nothing else to get. Not good enough reason for me.

[Jebus]

It's not a "pointless arguement" at all!

You as a consumer have the choice to either make an informed judgement and weigh up the pro's and con's with all the information available, or you have the choice to run in and make a rash purchase.

If you make the second choice, and ignore all previous factual information related to the decision, in my personal opinion, I'm not gonna listen to complaints after the fact.

Early adopters always get screwed. Be it by lack of games, or a price drop, or hell...both! This isn't news, nor is it some secret information hidden only for the elite internet cliques. The information to make an informed decision has never been more easily accessable.

[Dogg Thang]

Until the day comes when companies do force consumers to buy at gunpoint, it's a pointless argument. And never, not once, does it actually change the scenario. No games? Well you weren't forced to buy it! No, and yet there are still no games.

It's a piss poor launch. No gun. Yet still a piss poor launch.

No gun.

Yet... still... well, you get it.

Never does the gunpoint question ever actually change the reality of the situation. You've gone from summer, to incomplete games to the old gunpoint argument. And yet still, the situation is what it is.

[Jebus]

You clearly just want a space to rant at people, and their pointless arguements, so I'll leave you to it.

[Dogg Thang]

Not really, Jebus. You can see it that way if you like but I simply made a point, a complaint, and you then tried to find several reasons why I should not complain about it. I only had to post several times on it because you attempted to invalidate my complaint, and you failed to do that. Not quite sure why either because if you truly believed your own points, you yourself would not have complained about the well-documented battery life (nobody held a gun to your head).

For the record, I really like my 3DS. I think the 3D is fantastic and, d-pad and battery life aside (I totally agree on that), I think it's a great machine. Personally though, I have a real issue with the lack of games. That's it. That's all.

[wakka]

Nobody forced any of you to post in this thread. Why are you all complaining, its not like you're at gunpoint.
So glad I didn't buy a 3DS at launch, almost bought one for ~200 odd from GAME on day 1, that would've been a mistake if MGS3 gets cancelled that's it. As it is I'm waiting for a Lite.

[EvilBoris]

MGS3 has gone back to 2012. oh noes!

[Phantasmical]

I dont get what was is so poor about the games out. Zelda, SSF4, Dead or Alive dimensions all great imo as well as loads of really cool upcoming stuff. This is moaning for the sake of it imo.

[davek22]

I dont get what was is so poor about the games out. Zelda, SSF4, Dead or Alive dimensions all great imo as well as loads of really cool upcoming stuff. This is moaning for the sake of it imo.

Nail on the head mate. Plus there is some cool stuff on the eshop, Lets Golf etc. I downloaded Fieldrunners and its great on 3DS with the Analogue stick for scrolling. I am more than happy with the games I have and they are enough to keep me going till September when the big games start to arrive

[Lebowski]

I'm with Dogg thang here there is clearly a lack of games for the 3ds, and as a 3ds owner I find this worrying, game cancellations this early on are worrying, price cuts this early on are worrying, retailers mixing up 3ds games with ds games is worrying, (if they don't know the difference how can your average consumer.)

more and more I get the impression nintendo have dropped the ball on this and haven't done enough to give themselves a unique selling point. to me it looks as though the casual market has moved on from brain training and on to all you can eat 59p mobile gaming. the amount of people on trains tapping away on phones and tablets on my commute seems to say as much. the confusing 3ds is going the way of the virtuaboy its the curse of 3d

as an aside The summer slump is ridiculous for handheld games as there the perfect things to take on your hols or pick up at the airport. Its a massive missed marketing opportunity, get some celebrity endorsed ad with someone playing the 3ds on a beach someware sunny make the thing aspirational and cool to the general public like they did with the Wii and ds.

[Neon Ignition]

I don't find the cancellations worrying personally, there's very little of note that's actually been axed and no evidence that the systems sales have been the reason, especially as the companies involved are still releasing other games on the system. Perfectly normal for such things to happen. Retailers certainly need to sort themselves out though, it's a pain rummaging through the DS stuff to try and spot the 3DS stuff. With the right marketing position they'll be fine, if they wouldn't then the NDS would be dead already and Apple wouldn't be able to shift iPads for extortionate prices. The interest exists, it's communicating the devices plus point across which they haven't managed to do yet

[cutmymilk]

Maybe Nintendo shpuld have tried to make the boxes a little more different. Maybe black plastic and a different size? Idiotic launch on many counts.