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    When I play a shmup and the boss doesn't flash white when I'm pummeling them with carnage. This visual feedback is as old as colour itself.

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      Nintendo not selling a different coloured set of Joy Cons 2's at launch

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        Nintendo Making Switch 2 games £79 - GTA 6 is now going to be a flat £100

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          Originally posted by huxley View Post
          Nintendo Making Switch 2 games £79 - GTA 6 is now going to be a flat £100
          GTA 6 is going to be hilarious, £100! I’m not paying it that’s a rip off!!!!! Proceeds to sell 30m in the first week alone.

          Switch2 games are taking the piss, and everyone pissed and moaned at Sony on PS5 launch, how’s them Switch2 apples huh?

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            Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
            Nintendo not selling a different coloured set of Joy Cons 2's at launch
            Yeah, what with general hardware/software price gouging, pricing for Switch 2 game upgrades, and the innovation of empty game carts, they really took their eyes off the ball here. I'm sure they'll make good on the opportunity, though.

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              It's the second wave where things will kick off. When companies charge £80-90 for big name releases and then bemoan that those games massively underperformed because they failed to read the room that GTA6, Mario Kart etc are the exceptions and not the rule

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                I still remember my Mum & Nan kindly putting the cash together to buy a combined Christmas & Birthday present, spending £120 for a second hand PlayStation. And all new Platinum games were £19.99 so I could buy Tekken 2 in the New Year.

                I know inflation, I know nearly 30 (!) years have passed since 1997 but the idea that games are now approaching £100 RRP is insane to me. Especially as new consoles and PC components keep their RRP for much longer or are immediately on the second hand market for over their RRP.

                All I know, is the last games I paid full price for were Gran Turismo 7 and a handful of Nintendo Switch games.

                If you told me back in 1997 that 30 years in the future, the 2 games that first brushed the ceiling of £100 RRP was Mario Kart and GTA, I think I would have felt deflated. Not only for the price but they would still be having sequels that far on!

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                  Originally posted by Wools View Post
                  I still remember my Mum & Nan kindly putting the cash together to buy a combined Christmas & Birthday present, spending £120 for a second hand PlayStation. And all new Platinum games were £19.99 so I could buy Tekken 2 in the New Year.

                  I know inflation, I know nearly 30 (!) years have passed since 1997 but the idea that games are now approaching £100 RRP is insane to me. Especially as new consoles and PC components keep their RRP for much longer or are immediately on the second hand market for over their RRP.

                  All I know, is the last games I paid full price for were Gran Turismo 7 and a handful of Nintendo Switch games.

                  If you told me back in 1997 that 30 years in the future, the 2 games that first brushed the ceiling of £100 RRP was Mario Kart and GTA, I think I would have felt deflated. Not only for the price but they would still be having sequels that far on!
                  Most n64 games were £60-£70 round my area for a good 2 years, jokes aside the market will sort itself out on the RRP.

                  GTA they absolutely know they can get away with that, the market is at fever pitch now for 6.
                  Last edited by fishbowlhead; 06-04-2025, 11:00.

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                    Trouble is with gaming there are sooo many grey areas when it comes to pricing etc

                    Engines are more powerful and making games in many ways can be easier as a solo or small team can make a pretty damn good looking and playing game, i do feel with many many gaming companies there is a lot of bloat and poor management which increases the cost

                    Games in many cases are not the base price anymore...with microtransactions and dlc the actual cost of getting a game has really been smeared and blurred

                    Games were expensive back in the day but there was not a cost of living crisis so back then i could save up for them pretty easily

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                      I haven't paid full price for a new game for probably close to a decade. I'm always miles behind with everything and just keep an eye on games I like the look of until they drop to what I reckon will be the lowest price, then grab them to check out at my own pace. If GTA6 is £100, I'll just sit there and wait until it isn't. There'd be no reason other than pure corporate greed though, GTA5 at a normal price point made more money than the entire GDP of some whole countries. I sincerely doubt it cost much more money to make this Mario Kart than it cost to make the last one.

                      I genuinely wouldn't mind games costing more money if I knew the game development industry had good working conditions and all the actual workers were being treated fairly and paid well, but the only people really raking it in are the managers and the publishers who keep pushing for bland "safe" games that are a guaranteed return on investment (and a guaranteed return to Cex after a week). I would be genuinely pleased if the AAA industry completely imploded and we were just left with smaller companies knocking out interesting games that sell on word-of-mouth recommendations and fans showing it off rather than tens of millions on marketing budgets. I almost completely quit playing new games during the latter PS3/360 era as I was just sick of all the expensively-made but tedious brown/grey games aimed squarely at American teenage boys. It was only weird smaller company games that kept me playing at all.

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                        I await the inevitable CEO puzzlement when they continue to pnder why their big tentpoles sold less than projected

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                          The only new games we've bought at full price in recent years are:

                          Horizon FW on PS5 (pre-ordered for wife's bday at Amazon JP's full price, so Y7000 or £40 quid)
                          Zelda Link's Awakening on Switch
                          Shenmue III on PS4

                          Otherwise, only Nintendo Switch ticket games:

                          Zelda TotK + Mario Wonder
                          Zelda BotW + Mario Kart 8

                          Everything else is either bought on sale or used.

                          Even Mario Kart World will be discounted when we buy it with the Switch 2.

                          People often worry that going digital means we'll be price-gouged but there will always be sales. Always.

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                            Originally posted by eastyy View Post
                            Playing Xenoblade chronicles X great game with great improvements but my irk was...this was done on the WiiU how on earth do so many Switch games like pokemon cannot even hold a candle to that...Xenoblade just looks amazing even now with insane draw distance

                            Another irk is feels like everytime i boot a game to have a quick play there is either an update or always a shader compilation which takes ages
                            Great game, my irk is that the definitive edition took so long to come out! (and the number of people on here who told me it wouldn't happen!)

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                              Another irk of mine is games being shown or announced so far away from release, i follow indie game channels and i see so many trailers previews for games that i think look cool....but do not hear about them for ages and forget about them

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                                Not really an irk but something I've seen come up increasingly and most recent with South of Midnight is the phrase "it's a perfect Game Pass game"

                                It's a phrase which feels like a kiss of death for a game. Essentially, it's worth playing but commercially poisoned and we can look forward to Microsoft ceasing to make games like them in future.

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