Nintendo Wii U (Thread 2!)

[Grapple Convoy]

How to do a HD remake of F-Zero with no analogue triggers? I keep bringing this up but never get any answers.

I agree that the lack of analogue triggers on the Wii U controllers is facepalm-worthy. Stupid penny pinching decision...

[originalbadboy]

I think he's saying that the Cube was obviously more powerful than any previous gen console. The same isn't true for WiiU. We've had this power in home consoles for 7 years already.

No that's not what he said ... 'and I quote'

and the gamecube actually had n64 level internals

so basically he is saying that he believes the WiiU is the same as the Wii for all intents and purposes, I am sorry but it is not, and the WiiU does not have tech in it that is 6 - 7 years old, otherwise it would have 256B of RAM for example.

And the Cube wasn't exactly miles ahead of the Dreamcast or the PS2 for that matter. Both of which were well established consoles when the Cube hit.

The WiiU is obviously more powerful than any previous 'Nintendo' console.

[Brad]

The WiiU is obviously more powerful than any previous 'Nintendo' console.

Agreed. Not obviously more powerful that what we've been playing for the last 6 or 7 years though.
PS2, DC, XBox and Gamecube are all considered the same generation with only 2 years separating all 4.

Bottom line is I can see where he's coming from and I agree with his logic.

[originalbadboy]

Not obviously more powerful that what we've been playing for the last 6 or 7 years though.

But then the next gen consoles could quite easily end up like that too, I am sure they won't but I suspect they won't look as good as some people are hoping. Just whacking the res up to 1080p isn't going to be enough.

Personally I am not that bothered if the WiiU doesn't do much more than what current gen consoles do. In the end both the 360 and PS3 can do a pretty good port of BF3, so if the WiiU can do that as well, with extra bells and whistles which I am sure it can , that's enough for me for exclusive Nintendo stuff.

So it doesn't get some next gen games, that's what next gen consoles are for in the end.

[spinpug666]

I agree that the lack of analogue triggers on the Wii U controllers is facepalm-worthy. Stupid penny pinching decision...

WTF no analogue triggers! The more I read about WiiU the more I can do without it.

[PaTaito]

Oh come on .. so basically you are saying the WiiU has got a 'Wii' spec?? ... I mean really .. that's pushing it even for you.

Its pretty obvious the WiiU is more powerful than the Wii, much more, whether its much more powerful than the 360 or PS3 matters not , its still the 'next' Nintendo console regardless, and it still has enough grunt to be called 'the next gen' of Nintendo console.

I think you need to get a grip here, i mean i've said once it hits what i believe represents value(for what it is) i'll be buying one, and the spec really doesnt mean much in the grand scheme of things...

However when dealing with super defensive fanboy types, who cannot for whatever reason, take any criticism towards their new purchase, then you are forced to justify your every comment with solid reasoning.

Thats what i've done, no amount of twisting things and dressing things up changes the fact that WiiU is nothing more than a sidestep from current gen. Yes more ram, but crippled by a weak cpu design, and a gpu which is less than stellar. Now.....that doesnt mean i'm saying its **** and not worth buying period, it simply means i wont buy into the ?299 price point.

My advice to you is to lighten up on the whole WiiU thing, and just stop treating every negative WiiU comment like you are rmoxon defending indy 4.

[fishbowlhead]

If you put it in perspective of a ps3 or a 360 (at the moment), roughly the same power console, less games, online service not as good, less storage, less connectivity, no dvd or blue ray, all for the privilege of ?100 more, then objectively you would have to say the console offers poor value right now.

However come the new EAD mario or zelda and we will all happily plunge down whatever we have to to play them, myself included.

[PaTaito]

If you put it in perspective of a ps3 or a 360 (at the moment), roughly the same power console, less games, online service not as good, less storage, less connectivity, no dvd or blue ray, all for the privilege of ?100 more, then objectively you would have to say the console offers poor value right now.

However come the new EAD mario or zelda and we will all happily plunge down whatever we have to to play them, myself included.

exactly right.

[ETC]

Because of my new year clear out of crap I think mine worked out about ?150. It was definately worth that sort of figure. I know what you both mean though it is relatively old technology having said with it being a closed box and Nintendo's first HD system it does still manage to wow even though in comparison its not much different to a 360/PS3, must be down to Nintendo's games being not really like anyone else's, I was personally floored when I saw Mario U, I know its not that amazing to look at but it just felt fresh. I do think it shouldn't cost more than the GC or the Wii did at launch mind, well maybe ?200 for the premium as it has a game. It is a rip off at ?200+ but then again is a 3DSXL really worth the same as a Vita on tech alone? They cost what they do because Nintendo know they can get away with it, maybe not day 1 or even the first year but how many of you won't crack when HD Galaxy or Zelda comes out? That's how they get away with it imo.

[originalbadboy]

However when dealing with super defensive fanboy types, who cannot for whatever reason, take any criticism towards their new purchase, then you are forced to justify your every comment with solid reasoning.

My advice to you is to lighten up on the whole WiiU thing, and just stop treating every negative WiiU comment like you are rmoxon defending indy 4.

Ah pulling the fanboy card .. that's original .... I am in no way a fanboy or trying to justify my purchase, I don't need to, I am enjoying my WiiU.

Indy 4 is a fine film, but then I don't spend my whole life picking things apart with a microscope, you don't want to get a WiiU for the current price point we get it ....

I have done my fair share of Nintendo bashing btw ...

[fuse]

You also continue to make serious posts containing "M$", let's not forget that either

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Can't find a thread for Ninja Gaiden 3: Razer's Edge but it's on the way to PS3 and 360 in April (Japan) with extra content.

Seems a bit pointless for this game really but I wonder if we'll start seeing more third party Wii U games jumping ship as the publishers can't be selling that many at copies the moment.

[Kit]

Indy 4 is a fine film

[Neon Ignition]

If the WiiU is technically a modded Wii, and the Wii was a modded Cube, and we're claiming the Cube was effectively a modded N64 then f*** me.... hats off to Nintendo

[PaTaito]

Ah pulling the fanboy card .. that's original .... I am in no way a fanboy or trying to justify my purchase, I don't need to, I am enjoying my WiiU.

Indy 4 is a fine film, but then I don't spend my whole life picking things apart with a microscope, you don't want to get a WiiU for the current price point we get it ....

I have done my fair share of Nintendo bashing btw ...

Its no card, you must be, nobody can say anything bad about this machine without you jumping on your high horse...what other explanation is there other than pure fanboyism?

And if you dont need to justify anything...great, stfu and let people have an opinion.

Just get over it already.

you don't want to get a WiiU for the current price point we get it

If thats true why do you take every single chance to question this?

Iwe're claiming the Cube was effectively a modded N64

You lost me with that one.

Hats off to mario and co tbh.