Wii U - thread 3

[amorenod]

Well, I don't know about the French & German versions, but the Spanish version is as I remember, in English. For me, this language excuse as the reason for the 50hz version is BS.

[Pikate]

Oh come on, it's FOUR games, otherwise they've been releasing the US versions so they obviously have some reason for it. And even within that caveat it's the exact same game, it's the same aspect ratio, the gameplay isn't any slower.... That's no comparison to just stealing their IP.

If we're all going to be this petty why stop here? Why don't we call for a ban on Pikmin 3 for making a game of assigning jobs based on skin colour?

[nakamura]

Pikate is right, it's only 50Hz. In the meantime, I changed my PS3 HDMI lead for a composite one. It doesn't matter. The games are the same.

[PaTaito]

They're twisted facts, it's not that we're paying more for VC, it's that we pay more for everything full stop (VAT, exchange rates, the cost for Japanese and American firms to operate a European arm simply for distribution). If it really was cheaper/superior to have the US/Japanese consoles/games then we all would? Yet now, in the days of the internet when it's easier to import fewer of us (even on a forum called "Borders Down") do.

And no, it's not free on PC/other formats, it's stealing... You're also wrongly assuming all Nintendo customers have a gaming PC, I have a 15" Retina MacBook Pro that could easily run a SNES emulator and make a US LTTP ROM look as good as it ever could, yet I don't because it's not the seamless experience of a Wii U. Forgetting the illegality/dishonesty it's highly impractical to game on a PC/Laptop and as I say, I have a computer to do it, most people I know my age and younger don't even have PCs anymore they just have iPads/iPhones or similar tablets and smartphones. I can also guarantee the majority of Nintendo customers don't even know the difference with 50hz/60hz. You're dictating a company who serves millions of customers tailor their policy to yourself, who represents a minority of people who can and will just download it all freely for gaming PCs/emulators on softmodded consoles or who simply prefer the original release on the original hardware.

If you don't want 50hz VC, don't buy it, but don't be ridiculous and make out like this is some abomination, all but 4 games on VC are US releases and I've been playing this one earlier today, it's excellent, nothing at all strikes me as wrong or detracts from the experience... And I'm not some ignorant philistine, I know all the PAL/NTSC issues, let's just keep some perspective and stop being a spoil sport? Link to the Past is outstanding however it comes.

Oh jesus lol...

I dont import because these kind of drawbacks largely dont exist these days...outside of these ridiculous VC foibles.

The only reason to import in 2013 is not to miss certain import only releases, releases which i dont have enough time to play at my age now.

FYI and without wanting to sound patronising, people back in the days of snes/md/pce/ps1/n64 etc used to pay big money to import games to avoid the dreaded 50hz...especially the types of people who frequent this very forum amazingly!

I agree its still a great game, but the fact remains that there is no good reason for nintendo to be doing this outside of lazyness.

Also please spare me the speech about stealing, as it was an example of one of the many ways i could play LTTP...i dont, i wanted to buy it on WiiU, and again i wont because of the crap 50hz...and yes, it is clearly inferior unless you view everything nintendo through indestructible rose tinted spectacles.

As for the cost thing whatever reason you come up with, from a consumer point of view we still pay more. Nintendo know this, and they know that 50hz is inferior...and they are still up to this same old trick in the year 2013 going on 2014.

You might be fine with it, i'm not, get over it.

If everybody had that "oh it doesn't matter" attitude, i shudder to think the state PAL gaming would no doubt still be in...it begs the question did you game during the 90's?

When the dreamcast was released with 60hz options it was a revelation.

Pikate is right, it's only 50Hz. In the meantime, I changed my PS3 HDMI lead for a composite one. It doesn't matter. The games are the same.

Why stop there? get your DVD deck out, because the movies you watch on bluray are still the same great movies on DVD...There are no drawbacks!

It doesnt matter it uses old MPEG2 compression, or lossy 5.1....its the same thing, plus you can pay more for those DVD's than the folks over the pond are paying for Bluray!!

...Also it doesnt matter if studio's DNR the **** out of bluray, grain/no grain, its the same great movie!!!

EDIT: Ok a rather large exaggeration there...but the "its stealing" thing just put me in that over the top mood lol.

[dvdx2]

Oh come on, it's FOUR games, otherwise they've been releasing the US versions so they obviously have some reason for it. And even within that caveat it's the exact same game, it's the same aspect ratio, the gameplay isn't any slower.... That's no comparison to just stealing their IP.

If we're all going to be this petty why stop here? Why don't we call for a ban on Pikmin 3 for making a game of assigning jobs based on skin colour?

Yeah there is some reason for it - they are lazy fookers...

You are probably too young to remember the days of Horrible 50hz versions of big games at retail, that alot of us DID play top dollar for. It was one of the most frustrating times in gaming and left you with little choice to pay up to ?100 (and more ) to play import versions of games, in order to play them the way they were intended to be played. As PaTaito says the journey to 60HZ was a long, long battle and only really became embedded in dreamcast and ps2 software. A lot of people fought long and hard to get to that point. Yes it can be taken for granted now, but the point is Nintendo are STILL putting out inferior versions of well loved games.

Maybe if you had to pay ?70 for a PAL version of Turok (gimped from the US release) and couldnt even save the game for 4 weeks, due to shortages of memory cards or had to pay ?120 to get a proper version of SSFII, your opinion of Nintendo might be a bit different....

This is a forum where the 50/60hz issue has been an ongoing debate and issue for years; coming on here telling us we are being 'petty', is really rather arrogant to what the forum stood for for years.

Dont even get me started on your 'stealing' point...

[fishbowlhead]

Seriously guys. Build a bridge, get over it, and grow up. Jesus. If you don't want to play it in 50htz, get the original import version if it REALLY that important to your life. This is an import forum after all.

Otherwise, move along and let's get the thread back on track eh?.

[nakamura]

The thread isn't off track.

[J0e Musashi]

This is a forum where the 50/60hz issue has been an ongoing debate and issue for years; coming on here telling us we are being 'petty', is really rather arrogant to what the forum stood for for years.

Then everyone sold out, and started buying their games from Tesco.

[wakka]

It's not off track but it is pretty boring.

[nakamura]

Not for us. It's important.

[J0e Musashi]

You don't even have a Wii U fool.

[Lebowski]

neither do you,

interestingly Nintendo's Facebook page that was promoting the new Zelda VC release, was getting loads of stick about the gimped pal release.

[dvdx2]

neither do you,

interestingly Nintendo's Facebook page that was promoting the new Zelda VC release, was getting loads of stick about the gimped pal release.

tell them to build a bridge, get over it, and grow up.

;-)

[capcom_suicide]

Then everyone sold out, and started buying their games from Tesco.

Plenty of us have imported 360's, PS3 etc.

The 60Hz issue is not relevant for newer games, but highly critical for retro gaming.

[dataDave]

Yeah there is some reason for it - they are lazy fookers...

You are probably too young to remember the days of Horrible 50hz versions of big games at retail, that alot of us DID play top dollar for. It was one of the most frustrating times in gaming and left you with little choice to pay up to ?100 (and more ) to play import versions of games, in order to play them the way they were intended to be played. As PaTaito says the journey to 60HZ was a long, long battle and only really became embedded in dreamcast and ps2 software. A lot of people fought long and hard to get to that point. Yes it can be taken for granted now, but the point is Nintendo are STILL putting out inferior versions of well loved games.

Maybe if you had to pay ?70 for a PAL version of Turok (gimped from the US release) and couldnt even save the game for 4 weeks, due to shortages of memory cards or had to pay ?120 to get a proper version of SSFII, your opinion of Nintendo might be a bit different....

This is a forum where the 50/60hz issue has been an ongoing debate and issue for years; coming on here telling us we are being 'petty', is really rather arrogant to what the forum stood for for years.

Dont even get me started on your 'stealing' point...

I never had a US SNES to compare with my PAL one side-by-side. I was more pissed off about down-scaled arcade ports of SF2, to be honest, especially seeing as I could get to the arcades roughly every weekend throughout the Summers - you could easily tell the difference when playing like that and 60hz/120hz/up-the-ass hz wouldn't save that anyway.

But, all that didn't stop me from enjoying 50hz SF2. I knew games ran slightly faster with no borders but getting an import setup with a 60hz TV with an RGB slot (an even bigger deal back in the early 90s) was nothing more than a pipe-dream for me, at the time, along with a Supergun and a NeoGeo AES.

So yeah, I grew up in that period, and I didn't give a ****. Once I started working I started importing, and I won't stop, even now.