Wii U - thread 3

[Guts]

This is why we are still given 50hz stuff and nintendo carry on getting away with it.

I honestly don't care. I'm happy playing LttP on my PAL SNES, that's how I played it so that's the version I remember. If it's that big of a deal that there's apparently some slow-down during the storm in the beginning which lasts like 5 minutes in the entire game then buy a US SNES and LttP from Ebay and vote with you wallet.

[J0e Musashi]

Personally I used the Pro Controller whenever possible. Outside of ZombiU, which wasn't exactly innovative, I only used the GamePad for eShop purchasing and watching Netflix. NBA2K13 had a novel X-ray thing going on, but otherwise there is no actual need for the GamePad IMO. Including Wii compatibility has only confused things even more what with having to have different controllers for all of the different games available. Wii U with a standard controller only would be awesome I reckon. The Pro Controller is one of the best I've ever used too.

[Party boy]

To be honest, now the the xbone & ps4 are out, the wiiu is doomed to become the wiiwhat console in the eyes of the general public. So it doesn't matter what any of us say on the matter now.

Nintendo only have themselves to blame for this with the poor branding and advertising of the console, not to mention any good ideas what so ever on what to actually do with the screen that will be of positive use to gamers.

Is that you Michael Pachter?

[PaTaito]

I honestly don't care. I'm happy playing LttP on my PAL SNES, that's how I played it so that's the version I remember. If it's that big of a deal that there's apparently some slow-down during the storm in the beginning which lasts like 5 minutes in the entire game then buy a US SNES and LttP from Ebay and vote with you wallet.

Just because you don't care, dont expect every other person to share that view.

If i'm paying top dollar, and get an inferior product(however you want to play it down, or dress it up) then dont expect people to be beaming happy.

[Pikate]

If ?5.49 is top dollar to you then you really do have bigger problems in your life than 50hz Virtual Console releases.

Forgetting for a second how ridiculous that statement is and dignifying it with a response... You could MAYBE get a cart-only PAL LTTP for ?5.49, my reasonably conditioned boxed PAL version ended up selling for ?112 on eBay earlier in the year, I didn't pay far off that for a perfect specimen here. And that comparison is forgetting the fact you'd have to have enough interest in SNES games to source a working SNES console and a decent cable (even then it probably wouldn't look this good on a modern TV).

[sj33]

I think the price is quite irrelevant. It's 2013, not 1993. Nintendo are the only company still pumping out 50Hz releases.

[Pikate]

I think the price is quite irrelevant. It's 2013, not 1993. Nintendo are the only company still pumping out 50Hz releases.

Nintendo are the only people with content from the 50hz days anyone gives a crap about these days.

[sj33]

Do VC games work on the gamepad screen? Surely that would cause judder, what with the gamepad being 60Hz?

[baad bwoy]

the christmas lights thing is cooool!:-0

[Guts]

If ?5.49 is top dollar to you then you really do have bigger problems in your life than 50hz Virtual Console releases.

Forgetting for a second how ridiculous that statement is and dignifying it with a response... You could MAYBE get a cart-only PAL LTTP for ?5.49, my reasonably conditioned boxed PAL version ended up selling for ?112 on eBay earlier in the year, I didn't pay far off that for a perfect specimen here. And that comparison is forgetting the fact you'd have to have enough interest in SNES games to source a working SNES console and a decent cable (even then it probably wouldn't look this good on a modern TV).

Thank you for saving me the trouble of answering. "Top dollar" LOL.

[PaTaito]

If ?5.49 is top dollar to you then you really do have bigger problems in your life than 50hz Virtual Console releases.

Forgetting for a second how ridiculous that statement is and dignifying it with a response... You could MAYBE get a cart-only PAL LTTP for ?5.49, my reasonably conditioned boxed PAL version ended up selling for ?112 on eBay earlier in the year, I didn't pay far off that for a perfect specimen here. And that comparison is forgetting the fact you'd have to have enough interest in SNES games to source a working SNES console and a decent cable (even then it probably wouldn't look this good on a modern TV).

In the large scheme of things of course it isnt, but compared to other regions on the same hardware...our VC games are the most pricey, hence "top dollar".

Saying buying it on the snes will cost X, is utterly moot...as joe so rightly said, i could download the rom for free...but we are not talking about the original cart version, nor the pc rom, but the WiiU release.

And while i agree cost shouldnt come into it, Its still makes it a double slap in the face no matter how you look at it, we pay more for something that is not as good.

Simple facts.

[fishbowlhead]

Is that you Michael Pachter?

Who's Michael patcher?

[Pikate]

In the large scheme of things of course it isnt, but compared to other regions on the same hardware...our VC games are the most pricey, hence "top dollar".

Saying buying it on the snes will cost X, is utterly moot...as joe so rightly said, i could download the rom for free...but we are not talking about the original cart version, nor the pc rom, but the WiiU release.

And while i agree cost shouldnt come into it, Its still makes it a double slap in the face no matter how you look at it, we pay more for something that is not as good.

Simple facts.

They're twisted facts, it's not that we're paying more for VC, it's that we pay more for everything full stop (VAT, exchange rates, the cost for Japanese and American firms to operate a European arm simply for distribution). If it really was cheaper/superior to have the US/Japanese consoles/games then we all would? Yet now, in the days of the internet when it's easier to import fewer of us (even on a forum called "Borders Down") do.

And no, it's not free on PC/other formats, it's stealing... You're also wrongly assuming all Nintendo customers have a gaming PC, I have a 15" Retina MacBook Pro that could easily run a SNES emulator and make a US LTTP ROM look as good as it ever could, yet I don't because it's not the seamless experience of a Wii U. Forgetting the illegality/dishonesty it's highly impractical to game on a PC/Laptop and as I say, I have a computer to do it, most people I know my age and younger don't even have PCs anymore they just have iPads/iPhones or similar tablets and smartphones. I can also guarantee the majority of Nintendo customers don't even know the difference with 50hz/60hz. You're dictating a company who serves millions of customers tailor their policy to yourself, who represents a minority of people who can and will just download it all freely for gaming PCs/emulators on softmodded consoles or who simply prefer the original release on the original hardware.

If you don't want 50hz VC, don't buy it, but don't be ridiculous and make out like this is some abomination, all but 4 games on VC are US releases and I've been playing this one earlier today, it's excellent, nothing at all strikes me as wrong or detracts from the experience... And I'm not some ignorant philistine, I know all the PAL/NTSC issues, let's just keep some perspective and stop being a spoil sport? Link to the Past is outstanding however it comes.

[nakamura]

It's also dishonest to charge the same price across regions when one is superior to the other.

[sj33]

It wouldn't matter if it was 10p or ?10. Why 50Hz?